Percocet - what are the chances the doc will prescribe it?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by lvjesus, Mar 1, 2006.

  1. lvjesus

    lvjesus Member

    Well, 1/2 of a 5 - 325 of Percocet plus 2 advil or tylenol is working about 12 hours for me. How many think my doc will prescribe them based on his fear of "ADDICTION"?
  2. dragon06

    dragon06 New Member

    I have been told by numerous doctors that Percocet is not the best pain killer for FM pain. I currently take Vicodin and Darvocet has also worked. I have heard of many people using Ultracet and others.

    If your doctor has a fear of addiction they I would say it would be hard pressed to have any narcotics prescribed as they are all "addictive". I have been taking narcotics for almost 3 years now and I do not take them everyday. I have not become addicted. It affects everyone differently.

    You may want to think about finding a new fibro friendly doctor though that is more confortable prescribing pain pills. You may need them to function.

  3. lvjesus

    lvjesus Member

    I am jumping the gun, I think. I have been taking my husband's Percocet but have not been to the doc for pain pills yet.

    If I live through my menstral period this month, the pain might back off some. I am just suffering this week.

    Sonya
  4. dragon06

    dragon06 New Member

    Allow me to sound like a doctor for a few seconds...it is bad (unsafe) to take someone else's prescription, especially a controlled substance like Percocet...I would hate to see either of you get in trouble...OK sounding like my mother over...

    I have lots of troubles around my menstral time too. My current solution is that I am taking Depo Provera for birth control. It is an injection you get once every three months, in 90% of women it stops your menstral cycles completely. This takes away this component away for me.

    You may want to see a doctor regarding pain pills. Start small perhaps. Percocet is higher up on the list of narcotics, it is considered a "major narcotic" by the DEA. You may want to start with something like Darvocet or Lorcet which are considered "minor narcotics", your doctor may be more willing to prescribe these and start with a short prescription for 15 or 30 pills with no refills until you see if they help. Although most narcotics require a separate prescription for each "refill". My doc calls mine in as I need them.

    Every doctor is going to be different. I wouldn't walk in and ask for pain pills right away and I wouldn't necessarily ask for anything by name, I also wouldn't tell your doctor you have taken your husband's Percocet as that is technically illegal and my be construed as "drug seeking behavior" by your doctor.

    Go to your doctor. Explain your pain to them. Tell them that over the counter medications such as (insert drug here) have not be successful in relieveing your "breakthrough pain" and you were wondering how to handle this. Your doctor may surprise you and offer you something. If they don't offer then ask them for thier advice on how to go about relieving this pain and go from there.

  5. ibisgirldc

    ibisgirldc New Member

    I'm agreeing with dragon. Everything that I've read and heard says that percs are not the way to go for FM. (I'm always surprised at the number of people on these boards who are taking very strong narcotics...) This isn't about your doctor's "FEAR OF ADDICTION;" It's about facts.

    You're not curing your FM; you're simply drugging yourself. You know that woosy feeling? The itching perhaps? The drowsiness, floating, etc? (I hope you do b/c if you don't, you might already be getting hooked.) If not used properly and under supervision, you can get addicted. You don't have to be a 'drug addict;' you can just be a normal, mid-American, red-stated, church-going housewife and find yourself in rehab for pain pills that, really, you never needed or should have taken in the first place. It's dangerous stuff. (I've taken it for kidney stones... pain worse than labor, they say. And while I have a bottle of percs in my medicine cabinet and have been bedridden from FM pain, it has never occured to me to take them for FM. Not a chance.)

    Talk to your doctor about pain meds that are designed to deal with the type of pain (the source of pain) that we experience. And if you've done that and have exhausted every other option available, then, perhaps, the doctors will give you straight up narcotics. But stuff like percocet and oxycontin aren't things that you just borrow from relatives. Really, really bad idea. Especially if you're doing it while in pain. That's like a "back-to-school special" in the making...

    Oh, and you're taking the perc with Tylenol? How much? You do know that percocet is Tylenol, right? So you're possibly overdosing on that? If you're taking too much of it, you can severly damage your liver and more. (It's "over the counter" but that doesn't mean that it's harmless.) And if you have diagnosed FM, you're probably on other drugs and thus, you may be comingling things that can't or, for you, shouldn't be mixed. I hate to sound preachy, but you really shouldn't be taking this or any prescription medicine without consulting your doctor...
  6. lvjesus

    lvjesus Member

    I do appreciate your time in replying to me. I am very worried right now. My leg and hip pain are still with me and the last 2 days, standing in the shower for 15 minutes was all I could do at one stretch and then I had to sit while getting ready.

    Thank God my job in sitting or I would be in really big trouble. I thought about the issue of taking someone else's meds and won't mention that to my doc. I do plan on telling him that I cannot afford to pay a $40 co-pay plus a prescription co-pay over and over until I find something that works. I pray that he will be willing to try options without additional visits if it is necessary.

    Someone on another thread gave a great suggestion to get just a couple of the pills before filling the entire script to see how they would work. Then you don't have a zillion prescriptions in your house that are no good.

    Sonya
  7. Lindy2

    Lindy2 New Member

    I agree 100% with Dragon and the dangers it can cause by taking someone else's med. I do understand the pain you have been in also but please be careful :O)

    Percocet is a name brand for a combination of acetaminophen(tylenol) and oxycodone (oxycontin). It's prescribed for moderately to severe pain relief.

    I too would sit down and discuss your pain levels with your doctor and start out with something milder. This way in the future if you need something stronger chances are it will work alot better.

    Good Luck and I hope you find relief :O)

    Lindy



  8. illnative

    illnative New Member

    Dear LvJesus,

    The pain of fibromyalgia can be a lifetime pain. I was diagnosed 2 years ago and read that it rarely got worse. I'm one of the unlucky ones, I guess because this has been the worse winter of my life. I was initially given Darvocet tabs and recently fished those out and began to use them. I didn't particularly like the way they made me feel, but they did kill the pain if I took them full force.
    I finally realized that it is dangerous to rely on something so addictive for something that is not going to "get well", so I threw them away and decided to go back to the old methods of diet, exercise, warm baths and
    prayer.
    Twenty years ago, I kicked an alcohol habit when I gave my life to the Lord, but I am still aware of how easy we can come to depend on an easy button.
    I'm not trying to discourage you, but I find that if I just get up and move, it really helps. Even though my body is telling me I can't. It's lying. HAHA!
    I hope you will understand, that I have seen too many good people find them selves addicted to pain medication. It is easier than you think.
    Try anti-inflammatory medication and a good fibro diet and let us remember that Paul had a "thorn in the flesh". God loves us.
  9. fitzh2o

    fitzh2o New Member

    Hi lvjesus,

    I had suffered with cfm/fm for about 10 years now. I have tried a lot of the other pain medications mentioned and none of them seemed to work very well. My doc prescribed lortab but just one pill would make me feel like a zombie for about 24 hours. I couldn't function that way either. Then, about six months ago he prescribed 1/2 to 1 5-325 percocet at bed time.

    I have to tell you that I was also very afraid of addiction. However, I have been taking 1/2 of the percocet about 7:00 PM every night and then the rest of my meds before bedtime (10:00) which include an 800mg ibuprofan and a benedryll. With this combination, I have slept better and longer than I ever have since I got sick. It is so nice to finally be getting some rest that is somewhat restorative and so very much needed. I am not waking up nearly as much because of pain. I have not developed a craving for it.

    Sometimes I think we let our fear prevent us from using something that can be very effective in the treatment of these diseases. My doc has told me that when you take it for pain and not just to get "high", the chances of addiction are greatly reduced. Of course, your doc can help you monitor your usage. I have been able to stay with 1/2 tab for six months now with no desire for an increased dosage. I also like that I don't have the hangover I did with the lortab.

    Different things work for different people. You just have to keep trying things untill you find what works for you. I try very hard not to take anything during the day. If I am hurting very badly though, I get by on the 800mg ibuprofan during the day. I just know that this drug has helped me more than anything else and I hate to see people so afraid to use something that can be so helpful.

  10. dragon06

    dragon06 New Member

    Just a word on addiction...

    I have been using Vicodin for almost 2 years now, I do not take it every day and I am not addicted to it. I have not had to increase my dose during this time.
    It is correct that the risk of addiction is lower when using them for true problems (pain) as opposed to getting high.

    Before Vicodin I had taken Percocet during my gallbladder issues.

    I have never run out of a prescription before the refill. I was not and am not addicted to either drug. If oyu monitor well and keep your eye on the dose you are going in the right direction.

    I am not saying that it is impossible to get addicted when using them for pain, I just wanted to attest to the fact that you CAN use them for years as directed and NOT be addicted.

    lvjesus you don't need to be scared. Do your research, educate yourself, listen to all points of view and experiences. Be honest with yourself and your doctor and you are on the right track.

    The idea of just filling few pills at a time is a good one too, saves money and helps you see if you will get side effects.
  11. NyroFan

    NyroFan New Member

    lvjesus:
    I take Percocet on a regular basis. It is the only medication that gives me relief. I have no fear of addiction. I am dependent on it, but do not abuse it.
    It is a long story how I got on it, but for those of you know the battle I faced in self-medicating know what I mean.
    Hugs,
    NyroFan
  12. ilovepink4

    ilovepink4 Member

    lvjesus...my sympathies are with you as you suffer without any relief...also, i am sorry that you have been hit with swome very strong antipain med people....pain is so undermedicated in our country...for people who really need it...because of the people who abuse it...

    i take percocet and have for at least 4 years...i started because me back pain was causing me no sleep..i was so grateful to my doc who prescribed it for me...i even switched docs b/c my old doc was so into natural healing and i needed some serious pain relief...my doc continues to give it to me due to the ongoing back pain and the fm pain i have...i have 4 kids, my dh is out of town or busy with work often, my 18 yr old has severe cp and has to be lifted no matter how my back feels...

    i also wear a pain patch called fentanyl ...durigesic patches..i stick a new one on after 2 days..i really like the patches because you don't get a rollercoaster effect like with oral meds...you take one wait for it to work...then get relief...then it wearws out and you have to wait to take the next dose...with the patch it is a steady dose of medication...i can help with how to keep it sticking too if anyone needs a suggestion...

    my doc works closely with me to make sure i am not taking too much oral meds...i have to go get the rx at the clinic...he isn't allowed to call it in...my dose climbed the first year or so then leveled off...yes, i would say i am dependant on them...yes, if i ever am cured i will need to wean off them (like many other meds)...but, i am able to live my life...i drive...i don't feel any woosiness or feel high or happy...i can't tell if took one other than the pain isn't as bad....i don't take them for fun...i try to limit how many i take...i write down every med i take and the time so i don't forget or just toss them down...


    i did research on pain relief and there is lots of info that supports people as well as the anti pain people too...i think that showws like oprah that have people on who are confessing to addiction and are not someone you would expect to be abusing are NOT in our situation....

    don't be afraid if you really need it...if you had cancer you would be offered all kinds of relief...we still have to continue our lives....so anyways, i just wanted to say it works for me and i don't care what anyone says about me..it is between me and my doc ....you don't need anyones approval ...be smart about it...be responsible...

    also, percocet just happened to be the med i ended up on..i am inte4rested in what others take, in the narcotic family, that works well for them....

    good luck
  13. cinnveet

    cinnveet New Member

    I am with Ilovepink4, I also use the Fentanyl patch, and would love an idea on how to keep the patch on so it doesn't fall off. right now I use a waterproof band aide, but the glue on the band aide sticks to the patch and I wonder if that may cause a problem with how the patch is suppose to work as time release.
    I notice when I put a new patch on I do not have to take anything else for my pain, but by the end of day 2, I notice my pain will increase to the point that I will need to take a norco. My Dr. tells me to chg the patch every 3 days. On day 3 I have no relief from the patch. I see the Dr. on the 15th. I will let him know how I am doing.

    Ivjesus, I hope you get help with your pain. As for what works for one person may not work for another. I tried for years taking all sorts of medicine and I finally went to a Pain Specialist who started me on percocet, I told him that I didn't like the feeling of having to take pills every time my pain was so bad that I could no longer function. That is when he put me on the Fentanyl patch. It made a world of difference. And if the DD subsides that I no longer need the patch, I will have to be slowly taken off of it. But I work full time and it is hard to due my job when I am in so much pain and my body starts jerking because of the spasms I get. The patch has made a difference to the point that my co-workers have said they are happy to see me doing better and they were really getting worried about me when my body would twitch and I had no control over it.

    Cindy
  14. ilovecats94

    ilovecats94 New Member

    I just took one because of pain in my back. I just hope I will be able to get a refill when I need it.

    I don't feel I'm 'addicted' to it at all. I may have a dependency to one a day, but that is all.

    Hope you are doing well S. :)

    Love,
    Faye
  15. JLH

    JLH New Member

    The chances in my area of the country would be very slim -- in fact, slim to none!

    The only way Percocet is prescribed around here is after surgery, broken bones, etc.


    Janet

    P.S. I am given Lortab for my back pain--CT's of my back show a ton of problems that cause pain. That is why the doc will give me the Lortab. But he has told me that it would not be appropriate for HIM to prescribe it for me for fibro. ?????????--docs all have their own opinions.

    Docs here would give you Ultracet or Ultram for fibro pain.
    [This Message was Edited on 03/07/2006]
  16. ilovepink4

    ilovepink4 Member

    the way to keep those buggers on is to go to the pharmacy and ask for "Tagaderm " transparent dressing....get the 4inx4 1/2 in size(10 cm x 12 cm) it is a clear rectangle shaped bandage...it is just big enough to fit over the edges of the patch...the cost about $2 each...my doc wrote an rx for them but my insurance won't pay...my doc also said to call the fentanyl patch company (unless i am confused ) and ask for them to provide them....he had a patient who did this and the patch company sent them free...maybe i misunderstood him and he meant call the tagaderm company ..anywaysk, i need to ask him to clarify which to call for sure,...he did have someone get free bandages....they got the phone number off of the box...come to think about it i am pretty sure he waw talking about the fentanyl patch company sending free tagaderms....



    regarding the dosage....i started out changing mine every three days as well...i found i felt awful on the third day...so my doc just changed my rx..he said that isn't
    unusual....

    one thing more....i remember when i first got the fentanyl patches, i asked the pharmasist if i could cover the patch with the tagaderm dressing and he said i could not do it...it would do something bad to the dose or whatever...after months of struggling to keep the patches on, i asked my doc if i could use tagaderm to hold the patch on,he said yes and told me sabout the patient who got the free ones....then, back at the pharmacy, the pharmasist acted like oh yeah that is fine....argh!!! i wish he would have said that in the first place....i have had no trouble with the patches being covered with the dressing....

    i hope this helps others since it made a huge difference for me...let me know if you can't understand what i mean...and need more info!!!
  17. cinnveet

    cinnveet New Member

    Thanks for the info!
    When I go to the Dr., I am going to ask him. I am also going to tell the Dr. that on the 3rd day I am having problems with the patch not working.

    I so appreciate your advice.

    Cindy
  18. dragon06

    dragon06 New Member

    My mom uses this patch and has found a decent way for keeping them on. There are a type of "bandaids" I would say that are available through the pharmacy. I think they are made by Tefla. They are large clear sticky pads that are big enough to fit over the whole F patch and then some. These are commonly used after surgeries and small burns so there are few skin side effects with them. They are sometimes pricey depending on the pharmacy but they are worth looking into.

    Ask your pharmacist if they have something like a large clear tape like sticky pad, thinking the name is Tefla. I beleive these are kept BEHIND the counter at the pharmacy as she always has to ask for hers. She has been doing this 2-3 years now with no ill effects.

    The Tegaderm that Ilove mentioned is the same thing I believe. The Tefla might be the Canadian name.
    [This Message was Edited on 03/07/2006]
  19. ma2alex

    ma2alex New Member

    I'd have to say I kind of agree with both sides of the coin. You do need to be very careful. Percocet is one of the most addictive of the pain meds. There are definately less addicting options available.
    That said, I find quite a relief from taking it myself. I take it for both migraines and my really intense pain (when you can't sit, stand, lie down, or do anything). I am not addiscted to it. But I do realize the abuse potential is there. When I take it, it is wonderful to not hurt. I could get addicted to not being in pain.
    I have, however found significant relief in taking Flexeril. Research supports the use of this drug in patients with fibro and it is non narcotic. You may want to consider asking your doctor about it.
    -Dawn
  20. jennypee

    jennypee New Member

    There is a 1-800 number on the box of Fentanyl patches that you can call, and they will send you free stickies to keep the patches on.

    I think someone on this board told me about it a long time ago when I tried them.