POLL- did you try grapeseed extract??? results????

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by bigmama2, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    just curious about this---. it seems to work for some people and do nothing for others.

    please tell- if you have cfs or fibro or both. how long you took grapeseed extract. what effect it had- good or bad, (and explain) or no effect.


  2. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    i have cfs.

    i tried taking grapeseed extract pills for 2 or 3 months.

    results- nothing at all. nothing good, nothing bad, no side effects, just nothing.

    i was hoping for help with my constant severe nasal congestion.

  3. TropicalGirl

    TropicalGirl New Member

    Nada...nunca...nothing!! I went through 2 1/2 large bottles of it and found no improvement in anything. I did take it as directed, but had no luck with it. Bummer... :(

    Tropical Girl*
  4. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    thanks for the replies.

    jam- so how long do you think people have to take it before they notice any improvements? 3 months seems like plenty of time for it to start to work. or do you have to take it for like a year or two to see benefit? your friends who tried it and got improvement- how soon did they get improvement?

  5. rockgor

    rockgor Well-Known Member

    I'm about where Kamina is. Been taking it for the last couple months.
    Haven't noticed any changes yet, but I'm going to continue the

  6. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    when you try a new supplement - say MSM- or glucosamine- or SAMe- or whatever--- how long do you take it?

    lets say you take it for a week and dont feel any different. but you decide to keep trying, another week- yet nothing. say you take it for a month- and still nothing. would you keep taking it for a second month? and if you still felt no improvement, would you take it for a third month?

    if after 3 months of trying a supplement with no results- what if you told the person (who recommended that you try that particular supplement) that it didnt work for you. how would you react if that person said to you "you didnt take it long enough. it is working. you didnt notice its subtle effects. so keep taking it."

    jam- i am glad GE works for you, and some of your friends. that is great. :)

    but i really really dont understand why you truly think/insist it will work for everyone. even when people tell you (here on this board) that it did not work for them. your attitude baffles me!

    oh well!!!! its a crazy world i guess!

  7. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    oh boy! this is an "interesting" dialogue!

    jam, how long did you take glucosamine?

    how long did you take SAMe?

  8. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    five people who answered this poll said that they gave the grapeseed extract a good try, but got NO positive results from it. they all tried it for 2 or 3 months.

    Jam, the problem is that you will always have an excuse about why it didnt work. for example you always say that people dont take it long enough, or that they didnt notice its subtle effects, etc etc.

    if someone took it at high doses for 5 years and their health didnt improve and they didnt feel better- what would you say??? LOL- I think you'd have some farfetched excuse. I just dont understand why you cant accept that it does NOTHING for some of us who tried it.

    scratching her head ??!!?? (LOL),
  9. bobbycat

    bobbycat New Member

    I started to take it and what I noticed that some people might not notice if you are not aware of your circulation. I was having trouble with circulation as I am bedridden most of the time. I started this for my circulation. I had ishcemic (sp) colities and had to have to colonoscopies as they could not find out what was stopping the flow to my colon and it was causing it to die off. Then I read in a FMS magazine that FMS people can have their blood flow intermediate slow down and even stop momentarialy, but you would not notice this. My gasterologist was stumped because when they did a vacular ultra sound they could not find anything wrong. He said if it was still bad he would have to send me to another specialist. The second time I went in within two weeks from bleeding pretty bad I went for my second colonoscopy and I was healed. He is baffled. Although he stated they can heal fast. But I had started taking Grapeseed extract 150mg twice a day. I feel that improved my circulation and my blood was flowing better and I was not having as much numbness on the left side of my face. So my point is you may not know that it is helping unless it is very apparent for some reason. It helped me but I did not know it was at the time but then I kept taking it and I figured this out. I emailed that Dr to tell him what I think was happening as I do not want someone else to go through this. It does thin out your blood so if you take certain other meds check with dr. So Jam I agree with you about the benifits but everyone is different.
  10. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    no problem. good to have lots of opinions heard. knowledge is power, right?! i am glad the GE has helped you and your hubby. i am glad that it (or any other treatment) helps people.

    just to help you understand my main point-- i am not trying to prove that GE doesnt work. I am trying to show the TRUTH- which is that it works/helps SOME people, but not all people. I have read posts that say how it helped some people, and i have read posts saying that it did not help other people (myself being one of them.)

    what bothers me is-- that Jam insists that it works for everyone. and in my opinion, it is very NEGATIVE (and annoying and disrespectful) for someone to insist that a certain treatment works for everyone.

    when someone says it didnt work for them, jam will disagree with them. like she knows their body better than they do???????

    certain things have definately helped me- and yes i sure do tell people about them. i want to help people. i hate to see people suffering. but if they try my suggested supplements/treatments/medicines and then report back that they didnt work- I RESPECT that- and i say "oh i am sorry it didnt help you."

    so rainbow do you understand what i am saying now?

  11. jmq

    jmq New Member

    The first time I tried taking it,...it seem to help reduce the frequency of my migraines. I then took a break from it for about 5 months to save money. I recently started it again and so far, not much change. Still getting daily headaches...

  12. bobbycat

    bobbycat New Member

    Thanks for the story from you Jam I find that very interesting.
  13. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    i am so glad someone understands what i am talking about!!!!! i was beginning to think i was in an episode from the "twilight zone"! LOL

    thanks for the resource about evidence based medicine. i will def check that out!!!

    i would like to see the research and "real" studies that show the GE has such miraculous results.

    glad the jogging and the cal mag help you. is your ibs type C or type D? mine is D

  14. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    oookee dookiee is about all i can say now! (because you are totally missing my point) LOL

    take care

  15. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    you asked me a very good question about why did i start this post. i started it because i saw you for the umpteenth time tell someone that the reason that GE didnt work for them is because they didnt take it long enough. (it was a post titled "any other natural remedies for sinus other that grapeseed extract" on 4-21-09.)

    someone stated that GE didnt help them one bit with their sinus and they were looking for other options. but instead- they got you- with your mantra. you just NEVER EVER accept that it doesnt work/help some people. instead of just accepting the truth or just ignoring the post- you have to harp on anyone who said it didnt help them. that upsets me.

    so, foolishly, i thought if i started a poll about GE results (knowing that some would say it helped, and some would say it did not help) i thought that you would see and understand that its not a miracle tonic that gives everyone amazing results. and even though various people said that it did not help- you still dont get it. and i now realize that you never will.

    so why do i care about this topic??? well there are many many people on this board who have serious life altering illness. people whos lives have been devastated by illness. and for them to be given false claims about a miracle supplement that will improve their health so much- they try it and then it does nothing and then they get blamed - well that whole thing upsets me.

    by the way, jam, i am not trying to "fight" with you. i AM trying to explain to you my opinions and feelings.

  16. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    ok. but you keep ignoring the whole point of this. it was stupid of me to think that you would "get it". i could explain it 1000 times, to no avail. why do you ignore my main point?

    i know you and i have some viewpoints in common, but this clearly will never be one of them!

    so, whatever!!!!

    about the toxic drugs-- thats another topic. i use a combo of natural supps and also medications. and you do too. you take like 3 or so prescriptions. i take about 5 meds, and various supps.

    ever eat frozen grapes? they are tasty. reallly sweet.


    ps- jam- post for you on chit chat board[This Message was Edited on 04/24/2009]
  17. Forebearance

    Forebearance Member

    Hi bigmama2,

    I've been taking grapeseed extract for over a year now. I take a lot of antioxidants, and it's just another one. I don't feel anything noticeable from the GSE, but I take it on faith that it must be good for me, like all the others. I started it because Dr. Pall recommends it.

    A peculiar thing happens to me where I don't feel noticeable effects from some supplements, but if I stop taking them I feel worse. So I go on taking them. GSE may be one of those things like that. (I haven't tried stopping it.)

    My guess is that if a person suddenly went from taking no antioxidants at all to taking a lot of GSE, the difference might be noticeable.

  18. outofstep

    outofstep Member

    with the grapeseed extract-I tried it for allergies and inflammation and it did absolutely nothing. What did help was quercetin/bromelain. I agree with you bigmamma-not everything has the same effect on everyone, not even prescription drugs.
  19. Bluebottle

    Bluebottle New Member

    Yes, I tried 9 high dosage capsules a day for 6 moths with no effect.
  20. Beadlady

    Beadlady Member

    and quit--Decided I should discuss it with my dr--have appt May 5th.