QUESTION: Next step regarding bite?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by KateMac329, Aug 6, 2006.

  1. KateMac329

    KateMac329 New Member

    Hello,

    I first want to say thank you to everyone for your support and healing thoughts!

    The “bite” is getting better and worse at the same time if that makes any sense. The line crept a little more last night but not by much but crept DOWN toward my ankle today. It didn’t move along much but it did.

    I am also getting red splotchy areas in other places on my body that burn really bad too. I have a few places on my legs, the inside of my left arm and a place next to my eye but these areas are all very small.

    All around the original red line on my leg there is a red circle about a ½ an inch in size. The actual bite wound itself seems to be healing though.

    I am taking Doxycycline twice a day and Cephalexin three times a day plus the shot of antibiotic shot they gave me yesterday.

    My question is what is my next step? I KNOW I need to go back to the doctor because this is obviously an infection like the ER doctor said but I just don’t know where to go.

    I can’t go back to my doctor because they evidently aren’t educated in what an infection looks like. (yes you are detecting anger at their stupidity)

    I know I need to go to a Dermatologist but there is a usually a waiting list a mile long to get in to see one.

    Should I go back to the ER tomorrow? What would you guys do? I definitely think I need to get to another doctor but I could use some advice on the course of action.

    Thanks so much for your advice and prayers and thoughts!!!!!

    ((((((HUGS))))))

    kate

    **I have responded a couple of times in the post here.

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  2. SandraJean

    SandraJean New Member

    Hi,

    I would go back to the ER also, as you might be getting a staph infection. The trailing red lne could be monitored. I've had them before and sometimes the best way to get rid of them is by having in IV antibiotic to stop the spreading.

    Good luck to you and let us know how you make out.

    Sandy
  3. tlayne

    tlayne Member

    I am just curious, no..... to tell the truth I am still concerned. Can you post on your profile what your bite looks like now?

    Yes, please do go to a doctor tomorrow. You are on a lot of powerful antibiotic, and I am thinking that you should be seeing improvment. You have me even more curious since you have more of these. Could you have a bug in your bed or some place that keeps biting you?

    I know that the derms are very busy and booked, but if you called and explained what you have, how many MDs you have seen, and the different diagnosis' they just might be curious also, and get you in. Hugs, Tam
  4. sleepyinlalaland

    sleepyinlalaland New Member

    about having a staph infection.

    I had staph (MRSA in fact), and the way you have red, sore spots popping up in different areas reminds me of the way skin staph behaves.

    I hope you have it biopsied for the exact kind of staph. If it's MRSA (methicillin-resistant staph), they will need to use a specific antibiotic.

    Do take care.
  5. KateMac329

    KateMac329 New Member

    Okay I have been trying to post a new picture of it. If there is a picture of my leg with a blue outline then that is the new one.

    I am taking pictures for documentation. I drew the line on my leg because you can't see some of the rash because of the flash. Even without the flash it doesn't come out through the picture only to the eye.

    I agree that I need to go to the ER. The actual bite site is healing but the rash is spreading and that bothers me. And the fact that other areas on my body are coming up is especially scary.

    I have thought about it being something in my house or bed but my husband or son would be having the problem too and they are one hundred percent fine.

    The reason I am asking for your opinions again is that I have a hard time going in and knowing what I need to ask for. I have a hard time being proactive for myself. Does that make sense?

    Okay well, sorry I have been talking about this so much. This is very painful and very worriesome. I am having some significant pain in my leg as well and also just general weakness and fatigue (but more then normal).

    (((HUGS))) Thanks for your advice and support!

    kate

    P.S. Storm - I emailed you.
  6. hugs4evry1

    hugs4evry1 New Member

    I posted a googled site for images on your last post and it also mentioned that cellulitis is CAUSED by either staph or strep infections.

    I would think they'd need to know which one in order to treat you properly.

    I also was hoping you'd compare your wound with the other pictures. I wasn't completely sure yours looked like the others unless they were only showing extreme cases.

    Hugs,

    Nancy B.
  7. KateMac329

    KateMac329 New Member

    Okay another question.

    When I was at the ER yesterday (saturday) the ER doctor told me he had never seen anything like it. So what does that mean?

    Are there really not that many staph infections that go around? Or does he really not know what it is and just told me it was Cellulitis?

    I am very bothered that no one seems to know what it is but yet they just are going about their daily lives like everything is okay.

    This is serious and I know it is serious. I am NOT trying to be dramatic here but what if this is a really serious staph infection and what if it is getting into my bone? Could I lose my leg or something?

    I don't know? I think I am just worrying myself to death but it is hard because I feel like no one is listening to me.

    How do you go into a doctor's office three times in one week and they just not take you seriously?

    Okay I got WAAAAY off of what I was talking about. The whole reason I posted again was for a question.

    My question is this: Will a dermatologist come to an emergency room?

    I mean surely if I go to the ER again they aren't going to tell me that yes it is an infection but to follow up with a dermatologist but not help me make that appointment. Are they? Again?

    Maybe I feel defeated about seeing a dermatologist so soon because when I had my PPD really bad I couldn't get in with a pychiatrist. Every office I called said that unless I was suicidal there was nothing they could do for me and if I was to just go to the ER.

    Then when I had my migraine headaches for over two months I called around to all the neurologists that our insurance covered and not one could take us before September, October and December! And I even explained the situation. They said, go to the ER. I finally went to one that I had to pay out of pocket for.

    So I guess I am just assuming it is going to be the same way with a dermatologist too.

    Okay I am just rambling now. I am very anxious and stressed and not feeling good at all.

    (((HUGS)))

    Thanks guys!

    Brookiesmom - I did try that link in the other post and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to work. :( Thanks anyway.

    kate
  8. KateMac329

    KateMac329 New Member

    Here is how I am feeling.

    Chills - on and off

    Fever - on and off

    Fatigue - more then normal

    NO appetite

    Weakness

    Leg pain

    Muscle pain (more then normal)

    Stiff neck and shoulders

    Headache (lots of them)

    Sore throat - on and off

    Swollen glands

    Burning eyes

    Nothing can touch the areas that have the rash because it burns so badly

    Heat makes the pain unbearable so I can't go outside



    I think that is it. I hope so anyway.

    ((HUGS))

    kate
  9. KateMac329

    KateMac329 New Member

    LOL

    I swear on my dog Crickett that I am not lying but I haven't shaved in about a month and a half. Not joking. LOL

    I have really fine hair. LOL Plus it grows really slow.


    Thanks for the advice on the "bullet hole" thing. I kind of wondered about that because I have never seen anything like it before.

    Thanks!

    ((HUGS))

    kate
  10. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member


    Don't hesitate to advocate for yourself, this is dangerous. Bump the line however you can. You aren't wrong in feeling discouraged in trying to see a specialist.

    It does look worse. YOu have no way of knowing if it is getting worse, or the fuzzyness and spottyness is a sign of gettting better or not. I'd hire some help for around th ehouse, you really need all your energy to rest and heal.

    Your symptoms sound terrible. They do sound like you are fighting the infection, but the symptoms suggest you are fighting a dangerous one. I had those same symtoms w/a systemic infection. But I was hospitalized at the time. I'm wondering if you should be too.

    I also agree you might risk further infection if you keep shaving. Best to let your lustrious gams get fluffy for awhile. I have a great mental picture of that right now, oops. If I made you smile a moment it was worth the risk of sharing.

    I don't think it could hurt to soak your leg in baking soda a few times a day. It might help the infection to not spread topically. You could make a paste and dab it on the new spots too. Baking soda is an old remedy for anything from chicken pocks, measles, poison ivy/oak and is antibacterial for throat rinses, etc. But you probably know that.

    I could be overwhelming you w/ info, but I'm worried.


    Jeanne
  11. kriket

    kriket New Member



    Hey there. I just looked at your new pic. and it looks worse to me. I think the doctors you have been to are puzzled. I would keep going to diff. doctors if you had to or keep going to the er and get pushy with them.


    I have the same personality as you do and sometimes it is hard to be assertive, but I'm sure you anger is building on top of the fact that your scared to death not knowing what is going on.


    My advise would be to go to a different doctor or go again and demand a culture test. They ought to know better than this than to give you the run around. Ok, keep us posted. I will be thinking about you.

    Kriket
  12. butterfly99

    butterfly99 New Member

    er,er,er,er,er,er,er,er,er,er,er!!!!!!!! your intuition is telling u to go to the er and get another look over it can only help please go,go,go,go,go!!!!! you are in our thoughts and we will send you positive energy. May u heal quickly
    Amy
  13. angeljoe

    angeljoe New Member

    I think it does look worse than it did before. I would go back to the ER. Mainly because the red streaking is an infection. I'm sure of that, but what kind is up to the DR.

    It is ridicious that it has come to this since you've been to your Dr three times, and to the ER. I would either demand to see a DR at your pcp or go back to the ER.

    If the antiobiotics were working, the red streak would be dimishing somewhat. I would think you need a bag of antiobiotics ran by IV.

    Of course not many of us are doctors here, but it don't look good. Please seek treatment soon.

  14. MamaDove

    MamaDove New Member


    I read her intial post telling you to wait no more than 48 hours for improvement...

    You still have symptoms, you need to have a definitive answer to this serious problem...CULTURE at once!!!

    I don't know about you, but this ordeal reminds me of how I was never diagnosed properly, put on all kinds of meds only to get worse, because noone KNEW what was wrong with me...

    The new pic of the 'bite' looks different but I have to say, the line is less defined, the initial area seems like it is healing but what's with all the new red bumps???

    Plus, the new areas you are telling us seems to me this is not healing as it most def should on those abx...

    I dunno Kate, for me, I am nervous for you...If you just look at all of your posts and pics and the timeline, this is serious...I still say spider bite and then an infection followed...Your symptoms are not of someone who is healing and healthy...We are concerned!!!

    Hope to hear a more plausible diagnosis and treatment plan from you soon...

    Peaceful days ahead~Alicia
  15. pammy52

    pammy52 New Member

    You have received excellent advice here.
    I am just adding my words of advice to get back to the ER ASAP.

    I have had both cellulitis and MRSA and neither are something to fool around with.

    The MRSA was not diagnosed by the ER doc even tho I went 3 times and said I felt it needed to be cultured.
    Finally a surgeon took a look and was furious that a culture wasn't done.
    Mine was on my butt cheek..thought it was a bite and still don't know if that is how it started.
    Of course I scratched it and then it became more like a boil.
    Very painful and developed a hard area that kept expanding all around the hole and I too had chills and fever and all over miserable feeling.

    It was finally so full of pus that it had to be excised and packing put in so it could drain.
    Not trying to scare you but trying to help you see the urgency of this situation.

    Even a staph inf. that isn't MRSA needs IV therapy as a rule these days.
    Too many resistant strains these days.
    MRSA used to be a strain found only in hospitals or nursing homes.
    It is now in the general public.
    A very dangerous strain of staph.

    Listen to others here as well as myself and go and insist on cultures and thorough follow thru with this.

    You may even be reacting to one of the antibiotics if you are getting a rash all over.

    I have worked in a hospital for 11 yrs. so am very familiar with this kind of thing as well as certain docs not taking the proper path with dealing with certain situations.

    Please do whatever it takes to get an answer!!

    Waiting to hear an update.

    Hugs, Pammy
    [This Message was Edited on 08/07/2006]
  16. suzetal

    suzetal New Member

    Almost all hospitals have a disease specialist on hand.Insist on seeing him/her when your there.I am sure that they will run the appropriate test that you need to get to the bottom of this.Explain that you are not going any were until they do.

    I did that with my daughter many years ago and it saved her life I refused to leave the ER till she was really taken care of cause I knew my daughter and I knew what was going on was not normal.

    You know your the only one that knows this is not your norm.So insist .

    Sue
  17. hugs4evry1

    hugs4evry1 New Member

    If I could vote, I'd vote for the ER but you don't have to worry about the dermatologist.

    If the infection spreads, it stops being a dermatological problem anyway

    For the google info, I just went to google, clicked "images" and put "cellulitis" in the search. Third row, first pic says "clinical" below the pic and that's where I got the information about the staph and strep infections.

    If they've never seen it before, then request they find someone who has or find someone who will search until they find the right answers. (Answers that you're comfortable with and a STOP to the progression) Or for pity sake, have them google it themselves and see if it matches!!!!

    Hugs hon,

    Nancy B.
  18. Alyndra

    Alyndra New Member

    There's just some things that the ER is useless for. Not to be the downer here, but I think this is one of them.

    Until you light the proverbial fire under them, they're just going to give you some antibiotics and send you on your way. At the end, they'll just say "oops, we don't know why they didn't work" yet will have never run the proper tests in the first place.

    I REALLY don't want that to happen <b>after</b> you've lost use of a limb.

    I say take your pictures, take your list of symptoms, and take yourself right on over to your local CDC.

    If there's one place that's going to find out <b>REAL</b> quick what's in your leg, and how to control it - it'll be the Center for Disease Control. <b>It's their only job</b>. Once you report it, they immediately have to run the tests needed to find what it is; to prove that it's not contangeous and harmful to the public.

    For Alabama Specifically, and if you have Acrobat Reader; you can get all of your local branch's phone numbers and addresses at: www.adph.org/administration/bureaulisting.pdf

    If not, then a few of the more important ones might be

    <b>Infection Control Division</b> 334 206 2986

    <b>Assistant State Health Officer for Personal and Community Health...</b>
    ...Thomas M. Miller, M.D., M.P.H. 334 206 2940

    <b>Assistant State Health Officer for Disease Control and Prevention...</b>
    ...Charles H. Woernle, M.D., M.P.H. 334 206 5325
    ...Virginia Johns, R.N., M.P.A., Deputy Director 334 206 5325


    One of the lessons that I've learned with all of my "1 in every 10 million" kind of problems - is that the ER is NOT the last resort. Typically, they hardly ever make it to my list of resorts at all these days.

    I myself don't have ANY idea of what it might be, I honestly have never seen anything like what's on your leg before. Then again when I get a mosquito bite, it turns all shades of black and blue - swells to the size of a dinner plate and lasts for a couple weeks like that. So what you have could be anything, yet still be nothing serious at the same time.

    Hope all goes well,

    ~Amanda
  19. KateMac329

    KateMac329 New Member

    Thank you to everyone for your replies!

    My husband is the greatest supporter and husband but he hasn't been taking this thing very seriously so that is one of the reasons I have been turning to you guys.

    However his parents are really concerned and have been calling everyday if they haven't seen me to see what we can do next.

    I agree that this is now out of the hands of a dermatologist. I don't know what the heck he can do for me now.

    A nurse from my family doctor called this morning and she got me an appointment set up for Thursday but we will just see....


    AMANADA and others - last night I just couldn't sleep from both pain and worry so I kept getting up and getting on the computer.

    I actually started looking up disease control. Then started second guessing myself. Do I need to talk to them?

    But Amanda you are giving me the confidence to call and say hey look this is what is going on, can you help me.

    When I went to my ER visit on Saturday I took pictures with me and had everything documented so the ER doctor can't say that he wasn't informed.

    Okay, I am feeling really fatigued and I am having to go to the bathroom a lot. Sorry I know too much information. I don't get it. I am not eating much. I am sweating like a pig but cold and clammy too.

    My MIL is going to was my son this afternoon so I am going somewhere even if it is back to the ER.

    Thanks all!

    ((HUGS))

    kate
  20. 69mach1

    69mach1 New Member

    we have standford and ucsf...sometimes when things are bad youy need to start demanding for more resources....

    jodie