(by the way, I just did a search for holistic, and read everything for the last 2 years with that in the title. Very interesting!) ortho dr. I saw for my shoulder injury said he thought a physiatrist could help me if I really had fibro - he thought I probably did not "because I didn't seem depressed" Well, I've been telling the docs I am not! I know the anti-depressants are given because of seratonin, but they do not make me feel well, and they have not helped my pain. I recently took myself off of Cymbalta. I have been thinking of giving up on meds - get off them and use the $$ on the massage therapist who is the only thing that's actually helped me in the 30 years I have had this FM. I know she thought highly of this guy in Mt. Vernon OH - so I called and asked if he treated FM. Receptionist says she will have Dr. call back. I thought - yeah, right. Hour later - Dr. called back. Not a nurse - the DR! He says "I am a very busy guy. I screen by phone. If you are not willing to help yourself - I don't want to waste my time or yours. I treat with a holistic approach. If you are looking for pain killers and don't want to do the work to really get better - I am not the Dr. for you" We talked a few minutes. I told him I've been taking myself off the meds cause they don't help. I told him I've been adding suppliments like magnesium, vitamens - but I really don't know if they are the right kinds. He asked if I am willing to try easy yoga stretches - I told him I bought some yoga and tai chi tapes just before I injured my shoulder. Told him I have looked at recumbant exercise bikes. Told him I've been off caffeine and have been really working on diet. He says then perhaps he can help me. THEN - he says..... think about it for at least a week. He says it all boils down to two words.... personal responsibility. He said if I am not willing to make the lifestyle changes to make myself better then I had better stick with meds and the rheumy. If I am ready to really put in an effort, give him a call. Here's the thing though... he says he usually spends the first session at one hour. Then, two more sessions --- and that's it. He says he can lay out the plan in that time. You can come back if you have new issues, or for a progress check, but basically, he lays it out, and either you follow it or you don't. He is an MD... a physiatrist with 30 years of experience..... and he believes FM is a real thing.... but believes meditation, even self hypnosis can help as much as pain meds. Knew we can't do strenuous exercise... but recommended gentle stretching stuff. Stress reduction. Actually used the words "slowing down and smelling the roses and learning to enjoy life" What do you think ---- sound like he's nuts or not?