Sinus, Allergies and Anxiety

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by greatgran, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Is your anxiety worse when your sinus and allergies are flaring? I never had allergies or sinus problems before CFS and now seems I have them so often at least once a month and when I do my anxiety is so much worse..

    Just wondering if anyone experiences this?
    What could the connection between this DD and allergies and sinus? Sometimes I wonder if I am having a flare instead of the allergy, sinus problem..The doc has me on claritin, flonase and now an antibodic..I always feel so much better after the antibodic for about a week then the whole thing seems to start again...

  2. JLH

    JLH New Member

    I always have sinus and allergies issues, and I'm not bothered by anxiety problems much, so I would not know if anxiety would be worse when my sinus and allergies are acting up or not!

    I know I have more sinus issues during the winter because we burn a wood stove. I stay on a nasal spray, Nasacort.

    Sorry that I can't really help you.

    Happy Holidays,
  3. karatelady52

    karatelady52 New Member

    For me, the sinus, allergies and anxiety are lyme related. I've had all this for 30+ years, sinus surgeries, shots, nasal irrigators, you name it.

    This past year I was diagnosed with lyme disease and after reading a lot on the lyme board, most everyone with lyme suffers with this.

    I take Xanax for the anxiety while I'm taking abx for the lyme.

    Another thing it can be is candida yeast. For that you need probiotics and stay off sugar.

    I do know how awful anxiety is and I'm so sorry you are struggling with it. Its a big struggle for me right now because my treatment makes it worse (but will be better in the long run).

  4. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Thanks to each of you for your input..

    Jlh sure am glad you don't have the anxiety with the sinus, allergy problems..
    The anxiety is much worse to deal with at least it is for me..I know for a fact that someway it is related to this dd or what ever I have..

    Sandy, sure is interesting about the lyme's disease..I have been tested twice and both were negative but the test were done by my GP..I do know after a week or even about 3 days on an antibodic I began to feel better, even helps with the anxiety..When I have this sinus/allergy or whatever I have to go to bed for days I feel so terrible..Oh, I did test postive for the Epstein-Barr but the doc didn't seemed surprised or concerned and no treatment was given..Sure do wonder about the lyme disease, don't ever remember being bit by a tic and have never run a fever ..I so doubt my dx of cfids...

    Pickles, I seem to suffer with this year round..Seems I only have one or two weeks a month without it..The antibodic helps but as soon as I stop taking it then in about a week the symptoms return and I try to battle them on my own, then I get to feeling so bad I go for the antibodic..
    The strange thing is I never run a fever..

    Elliespad, makes sense what you said and why the antihistimines (sp) work..The doctor just prescribed them to me last month..I have just started taking them everyday so will see if the help..

    Thanks again,
  5. karatelady52

    karatelady52 New Member

    I don't understand why docs don't see the seriousness of high Epstein-Barr counts. If they are high, it means the virus is active in your body. I have a high Epstein-Barr count too but I believe mine is from the lyme suppressing my immune system. I never had a rash either plus I grew up in Florida, not the Northeast as I've heard some doctors say has to be a prerequisite for lyme. You ought to have a lyme test by Igenex to be sure because it sure isn't anything to mess with.

    I know I sound like I'm harping on this but every time I see women at the Fibro and Fatigue Center, a very high percentage have lyme. Doctors just don't get the seriousness of it.

    The fact that the abx makes you feel better tells you it is killing off something in your body.


  6. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    How and where do I get tested for the lyme test you speak of? I was tested twice I think it was the western blot but not sure..
    I have read the symptoms of lymes and of course have some of them but I never run a fever, my temp is always below normal..

    As far as rashes I have them ever now and then but in different locations..About 12 years ago I had to have a blood transfusion and boy did I get a rash , all over my body that came and went for about 5 years..

    Our docs aren't the best but my PA will go along with any thing that would help me.
    So if you would send me more info on the lyme's test would appreciate it..

  7. karatelady52

    karatelady52 New Member

    What you probably ought to do is get a copy of the lyme test your doctor performed. If it is the western blot, your doc may not interpret it correctly. If it was me, I would go to lymenet dot org and give them your numbers and they will tell you what each number means.

    Many with lyme will test negative and still have lyme (I know, its very complicated.) What they will tell you on lymenet is to find an LLMD (lyme literate MD) nearest you (some travel several states to get to one) because you will then know for sure if you have lyme, and if you are positive, you will get the care you need.

    The test for lyme by a good LLMD is a clinical diagnosis and not just the blood test.

    If it was an Elisa, I would ask for the Igenex since many Elisa's can give a false negative. Your doctor can send it to the Igenex lab. Its wonderful your doctor will work with you.

    I never have run a fever (some of the coinfections that go along with lyme cause fever and I don't think I have any of those coinfections) and, like you, my body temp is usually between 96 and 97. That could also be from other things like the viruses.

    There are meds and herbs you can use to treat the Epstein-Barr also. I've had docs tell me there's nothing that will treat a virus which isn't true.

    There are people on this board who go to the FFC which would be an option because they treat the whole body --- they get your hormones regulated since most of us have very messed up hormones because our immune systems are so suppressed, then they give us Heparin shots for hypercoagulation (thick, sticky blood the lyme and viruses hide in) and then antibiotics which can be very tricky to administer for lyme.

    If you get your lyme test from your doctor, I'll find a website where you can read your numbers or, like I said, many read them to the lymies on lymenet who know more than many doctors about this disease.

    Hope this helps you,

  8. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Thanks again, by the way i do have the thick blood..This is my 3rd day on the antibodic and I am begining to feel not so anxious and somewhat better..

    They are giving me ceftin for the sinus..
    Gee, if I have something treatable would be great..Thanks so much, I will get my report and see what I can do...

  9. karatelady52

    karatelady52 New Member

    I'm actually taking Cefin along with Zithromax -- 500 mg. each daily for the lyme, plus Samento, Cumanda and Artemisinin. Oh, and Heparin for the thick blood.

    I'll be watching to see what your labs say. I was just over at the lyme board and people post their labs quite a bit over there.

  10. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    I will go get my labs this week if we don't get the ice storm they are calling for but will post here as soon as I get them..I may make an appt. and talk to the doc about them..

    What are or were your symptoms..I think a lot of cfs pts. have the thick blood..

    My symptoms and labs are: high positive ANA, elevated c-reactive protein,a low 3t on thyroid but all the antibodies test etc. were ok..and high hct. hemog.amd rbc's on my cbc which means thick blood but my iron was on the low side. My alk.phos was slighty elevated, my EBV AB
    VCA, IGG was high, and so was my EBV Nuclear Antigen AB, IGG and I have antibodies this is all greek to me..You may understand it but the doc said I am not surprised...

    My symptoms come and go I can tolerate the aches, pains and fatigue but the weird head feeelings , high anxiety and depression, blury vision are the worse..I am also agoraphobic so I don't travel out of town..Then there are days I feel almost normal and overdo and then repeat the old symptoms...I do not have pain like those with fibro speak of, my pain is mostly in my legs and that is when I overdo..
    My doc just tries to treat the symptoms thats all they know to do...

    Thanks again,
  11. jake123

    jake123 New Member

    I had a full fledged anxiety attack three years ago when I took Sudafed. I felt like I couldn't breathe.
  12. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Do you still have anxiety or is that the only time is when you took the Sudafed?
    I know decongestants will have that effect on some..
    The anxiety/depression is awful..

    Hope that was your one and only attack..
  13. NyroFan

    NyroFan New Member

    Since my diagnosis I have constant sinus trouble.
    Every once in a while during the year I need to use
    Z-packs and Medrol Dose Pack. It really is an awful feeling.
    If you read about sinus problems in the Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Treatment (available at most libraries, though sometimes behind the counter and you have to ask for it)---it says that sinus trouble causes extreme fatigue.

    So: that seems to be one answer for you (and me).
  14. JPach007

    JPach007 New Member

    I have noticed I get stressed out when we are shopping and walk through the many perfume sections...Or when the cedar fever starts here, high pollen, etc...
    I've been taking allergy shots for 6 months now, and can tell you that I feel much better.
    I bet there is a connection between anxiety and allergies.
  15. karatelady52

    karatelady52 New Member

    Until I went to the FFC, my pain specialist told me my blood work was normal. After taking 22 vials of blood and much more extensive blood work, the FFC found all my hormones were low -- estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, cortisol -- my natural killer cell count was low, magnesium low, adrenal dysfunction, low DHEA, hypercoagulation (thick blood we talked about), Low B-12, insulin-like growth factor low, pregnenolone low--whew!

    My symptoms are extreme pain in back of neck and shoulders, very sore pressure points all down each side of back, headaches, lots and lots of sinus problems, allergies, gunk in back of throat all the time, ear clicking when swallowing, mitral valve prolapse, heart racing with anxiety (lyme does that), IBS, TMJ, dizziness, brain fog, word retrieval difficulty, (I can't think of what else I've missed.) Oh, irrational fears and some depression (but then, who wouldn't be with all that!)

    Many with lyme have a lot more neurological problems with flashing lights, shooting pains, forgetting where you are but thankfully I haven't had those. It just depends on where lyme sets itself up in the body.

    Try to get a copy of the lab work for your lyme test. I've talked to many on lymenet who had several negatives before getting a positive so I guess that's why the LLMD's only use that as part of their diagnosis for lyme.

    I've been on abx for 4 or so months and am just now beginning to have a few days where I don't have such throbbing pain in my neck and head and I feel stronger. Then I'll have other days when I'm herxing that I feel like nothing is working but I'm thankful for those good days because I honestly can't remember what no pain feels like. Its a slow, slow walk to healing from lyme so I don't let it discourage me. I'm just so very thankful for the FFC's and how they are helping us.

    You know, it took a man getting sick to get the ball rolling with the FFC's!!! He is the doctor who started them. My nurse told me that and I got a kick out of it.

    Hope all this helps,


  16. fairydust39

    fairydust39 New Member

    Hi greatgran, I have allergies and sinus and I'm much better on anti-biotics too. So I had breathing test and then went back to my Dr. I told her about being better on anti-biotics and she said, You have "Allergy Induced Asthma". Dr told me she had something better for AIA and gave me Singulair. It helps with the Allergies and the Sinus. And guess what--she was right,it is helping with both. I take one a day and it controls all. I also still use the Rhinocort-Aqua.
  17. sdown

    sdown New Member

    This has been a year from hell with me too with repeated sinus infections. I found out I had nasal polyps from the Nose Specialist. After trying everything for 10 months, biaxin (antibiotic), nasonex, cefuroxime (penicillin) nothing worked. My doctor told me in October that there is an antioxidant spray that is supposed to clear up sinus infections and nasal polyps. He was quite excited about it and it was a local pharmacist that informed him about the new product. It is not a drug but where I live in Alberta, Canada you need a prescription. After 17 days on the glutathione nasal spray my polyps where gone. I could feel it working within the first few days. I feel sooo blessed that my doctor told me about this. If you need the name of the pharmacy its Cambrian Drug Mart in Calgary Alberta Canada. From my experience Ive seen pharmacist work together from Canada and the US to teach one another on formulating or mixing pharmaceutical products. So if you pharmacist or doctor are not sure on the dosage to give you they can contact Bob at that pharmacy and he can help them out. It is new on the market. Well in Canada anyway. Good luck to you!
  18. justlikemom

    justlikemom New Member

    I've had sinus problems all my life, tried lots of different Rx's and even had the surgery.

    I was diagnosed with Lyme this past spring and since I started the abx my sinus problems/allergies have been significantly reduced.

    I have also had issues with anxiety due to the Lyme (it can mess with your brain, not just your body). I take zoloft for the anxiety.

    And yes, I do see a slight correlation, but for me it's explainable... when my anxiety acts up my nervous energy is often converted into crying etc... and then my nose runs and my sinuses swell.

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