Sleep doctor

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by tjblueeyes, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. tjblueeyes

    tjblueeyes New Member

    My pain management Dr. has given up on treating me with sleep problems. I have already had a sleep study done and they couldn't find anything, just poor sleep quality. Has anyone else had any success with a sleep specialist in helping them with insomnia?
  2. sunflowergirl

    sunflowergirl Well-Known Member

    I've tried various products and still can't get more than 3-4 hrs. undisturbed and after that it's sleep about every 30 min. Last night, again, I was awake from l to 4:30, but lately it's been bad pain that wakes me up.

    A friend went to a sleep doctor recently. She was only getting 4 hrs. a night but had to work an 8:30 to 5 plus type of job. First thing he had her do was keep a month diary of when she went to bed, when she woke up each time, for how long, etc. It was determined she didn't snore, had no sleep apnea, etc. This doctor told her that the problem was her circadian rhythm, so I looked it up to research it for me. And of course things like ambien are bad for you. I'm seeing my integrative doctor on friday and want her to request a cortisol test, along with a CFS test, and something called A1A which tests how your blood sugar has been for past 3 months. I guess if you've got a blood sugar problem you will also have trouble sleeping.

  3. tjblueeyes

    tjblueeyes New Member

    I have read about the circadian rhythm. I use to get up at 6:00 a.m. and walk around the lake near my house because they say you need the early morning light. I still couldn't get to sleep until after 1:00 a.m. and sometimes no sleep at all. I once had 8 hrs. sleep in 8 days. Can you believe that? I don't know how I functioned at work. I've tried NOT watching T.V. in the bedroom or being on the computer before bedtime. None of their suggestions worked for me. Sometimes it is like I have my days and nights mixed up, but I usually can't sleep during the day. Sometimes if I'm up all night, I can get 2-3 hrs. sleep between 6:00-10:00a.m. Lately, if I feel tired, I will lay down with my eyes closed and rest just to not be so fatigued.
  4. alyssalyn

    alyssalyn New Member

    Try eating a lot of protein and see if that helps sleep quality. My sleep enhancer meats are beef pot roast, tuna, oven-roasted turkey, chicken - boiled, and legumes that enhance my sleep are kidney beans, red lentils. If you are not allergic to peanuts, peanuts really works on me. Eggs and milk are good sleep enhancers for me. I am able to reach deep REM dreaming sleep by food changes. Raw garlic and raw parsley also do this, and so does green cabbage. If I eat protein and don't dream, it may be because of clogged bowels. Then when I take something to unclog them, the dreams come back. Too many potatoes stops my deep sleep. Keeping a food log really helped.

    Here's what to study:

    What time of evening do you yawn several times and naturally feel tired? It may be several hours off. If I go to bed before I start yawning, and becoming tired, chances are I will have a hard time sleeping. There is a natural set point. From one thing I read once, the body temperature cycles have something to do with it, and 7 pm is supposed to be the peak body temperature of the day, then over 2 hours or so, the temperature drops and at its low point one becomes sleepy.

    Also from something else that I read once, melatonin and serotonin are on 25 hour clock. Serotonin is produced from eating protein as far as I understand it, and every 25 hours serotonin and melatonin change back and forth. This

    I can scarcely go to bed at recommended times to save my life unless my circadian rhythm is corrected through eating enough protein. If I fall asleep, then I wouldn't stay asleep if I went to bed too early. This has been proven over many years, through medical advice I had to follow, trying to please people I was staying with, and I will feel horrid if I follow other people's orders to go to bed at a certain time because it is supposedly healthy. I have had circadian rhythm problems, to where I will be hours off of normal sleep time.

    Something that can cause problems in circadian rhythm is not getting enough protein. I have noticed how much my sleep has improved since eating more protein.

    Also, adrenal fatigue can cause sleep problems, and some people use Ginseng, such as American Ginseng root to increase energy and stamina. If the adrenals are fatigued, the sleep rhythm can reverse so nighttime is high energy and daytime is fatigue and need for rest. Don't use licorice root for adrenals, it can cause blood pressure problems and dizziness and consult a doctor as necessary.

    Hope something here will help you sleep better.
  5. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    I found Ginseng makes insomnia worse, it didn't help me with energy levels either.

    I do try to eat a good meal of protein in the morning, mostly a variety of eggs, milk, nuts and mixed grains & some fruit.

    My sleep is so messed up I've almost given up trying to figure out what may or may not help. Insomnia is a major problem for me.

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