Smoking

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by ldrerup, Feb 16, 2003.

  1. ldrerup

    ldrerup New Member

    Any of you with FM smoke a lot, my husband smokes 3 packs a day and I wonder if this has any effect on his FM
  2. karen55

    karen55 New Member

    that it WOULDN'T have an effect on it. I'm an ex smoker. Smoking damages your body, period. He's running the risk of heart attack or stroke or cancer in addition to his other health issues. Smoking constricts blood vessels, meaning less circulation, less oxygen to every part of the body. Certainly won't help with any healing.
    I'm a nag when it comes to smoking these days. I've seen the damage it does to people I love. I wish there were no such things as cigarettes.

    Karen
  3. pamela

    pamela New Member

    Smoking is the worst...Too many people have lost their lives to it. Pamela
  4. Dlee

    Dlee New Member

    I smoke and dont get me wrong I would love to lay them down,Just about everything eles has been taking away with this DD I just can't give them up yet. Donna
  5. onesmileymyley

    onesmileymyley New Member

    I smoked for about 10 years and I quit 2 weeks ago and I still feel no better. In fact I feel worse now then when I did smoke. I will not go back though. If I have made it two weeks I can make it forever. Plus with expecting a baby gives me a bit more ump to do it.
  6. debbiem31

    debbiem31 New Member

    Relationship between fibromyalgia features and smoking.

    Yunus MB, Arslan S, Aldag JC.

    Section of Rheumatology, University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria, IL 61656, USA. yunus@uic.edu

    OBJECTIVE: The objective of this study was to examine a possible relationship between smoking and fibromyalgia features among 233 female patients with fibromyalgia syndrome. METHODS: Data on clinical and psychological features were collected by a protocol. Smoking status was evaluated by a question inquiring about the packs of cigarettes smoked per day. Differences between the smokers and non-smokers were tested by Mann Whitney U test. To adjust data for age and education, a partial correlation test was used. A p value of < or = 0.01 was accepted as the level of significance. RESULTS: Fifty-one patients (21.9%) smoked. After adjustment for age and education, significantly positive relationship was found between smoking and pain, patient global severity, functional disability, and numbness. There was no difference between smokers and non-smokers for fatigue, morning fatigue, sleep difficulties, tender points (TP), depression, anxiety and stress. CONCLUSIONS: Smokers reported significantly more pain, numbness, patient global severity, and functional difficulties than non-smokers. There was no significant difference between smokers and non-smokers for fatigue and TP.

    PMID: 12455822 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
  7. dlizard

    dlizard New Member

    and I'm not quitting til I get some help to make things more bearable...... they are my crutch and I'm quite frankly happy to have them... everything is illegal. I've done angioplasties for many years and can tell all of you that I've seen 4 pack a day since the age of 7! (serious... tobacco country here) NOT have ANY problems and seen 30 yo guys that run 5 miles a day and eat vegaetables have problems... I'm sure smoking causes problems for most people , please don't get me wrong here,... but its NOT the problem in and of itself.... most doctors that care about people!!! << what a concept>> will freely admit this too!!! I've heard many say it........ interesting huh...
  8. Fibromiester

    Fibromiester New Member

    I began as a youngun' and started having FM symptoms in my late 20's. Does it make FM worse? A lot of painful FMers don't smoke. Smoking isn't good, but neither is Drinking. I may be killing myself, but I'm not out on the highway driving drunk into others because of Cigarettes. I've been encouraged to stop-I've tried Gum, Patch, Hypnosis, Cold Turkey, yada yada. No Good. So I've decided, that WHEN I decide to stop smelling like a chimney and coughing like one, then THAT's when I'll be able to put them down and say "Forget It!", and not any sooner. I'm really quite tired of being preached at & being made to feel guilty for a habit we started long ago, for a "thing" to do at the time, which was popular-all the TV stars did it!--That is an addiction stronger than heroin, And we didn't KNOW it was "bad" for your health!...etc,etc... WOW! I really can get started, can't I ?!?! ...........
    ~~~~~NO, I Don't Think Smoking Makes FM Symptoms Worse.

    (I Wonder...Does Booze?)- but That's another Thread!

    Fibromiester
  9. Kathryn

    Kathryn New Member

    since about 1962. Until 1992, when I left the Navy because my FMS symptoms were growing steadily worse, I ran 5 miles at least 3 times a week, lifted weights, did situps and pushups, and rode competitive trail rides (100 miles in 24 hours). I have never had a cough, except during hay fever season. My pulmonary capacity tests have always come back normal, as did my stress echocardiogram and every ECG that I have ever had. My BP typically runs about 90/72. On the rare occasions that I have needed to have it checked prior to my first cigarette and coffee of the day, the technician usually cannot even find it. The last time it was 86/42. I have never had bronchitis or pneumonia, and average one cold every 3 - 4 years. I seldom drink, and do even less now that I am a walking pharmacy. I think I am entitled to one vice, especially one that does so much to keep me sane. In my particular case, I think that the use of tobacco is far less harmful than tranquilizers. Just my opinion. There was an interesting article in the Journal of the American Medical Association a few years ago that discussed the fact that tobacco users are actually immune to over 20 different types of cancer. Granted, there are a number of varieties that are more commonly found in smokers, but I stand by my opinion that, like many other diseases, one must be genetically predisposed.
    Kathryn
  10. Dara

    Dara New Member

    and I wish I wasn't. Of course it can't be good for the Fibro, it's not "good" for anything. I believe it is the worse habit, (addiction), there is. I know I do get tired of everyone trying to blame everything that's wrong on the smoking though. As my doctor put it, it's all genetics. We discussed this one day as we were talking about quitting smoking, he also was a smoker, and I asked him why can some people smoke almost all their life and never have any of the terrible side affects? He said it's all genetic, and I do believe that. I've tried quitting more times than I can count and I turn into a real B--ch, I can't even stand myself when I'm going through it.

    I do want to congratulate those of you who posted that you had quit, I think it's wonderful. Hopefully, some day soon I will be able to succeed.

    Dara
  11. layinglow

    layinglow New Member

    If one is serious about improving their health with CFS/FM I cannot see how they could and would not considering giving up cigarettes. Here at this site we talk about the importance of specialized diets for those of us who suffer from these disorders, we discuss supplements and vitamins which many of us are in desperate need of...since we were the personality types who pushed our bodies til the last straw broke the camels back. We speak of alkalyzing the body. We discuss mycoplasma infections and using antibiotic treatment. Heavy metal toxicity, chemical and biological pollutants being possible contributors to these disorders. What is the point of all the money and effort to get well with these above treatments, if we continue to smoke?
    Below is a list of just few of the dangerous toxins found in cigarettes. Keep in mind these toxins go to every cell in your body, as they are dispersed through the blood supply. Another very important item to consider is this, cigarette smoke is a major cause of free radical production in your body.

    Acetone - A flammable, colorless liquid used as a solvent. It's one of the active ingredients in nail polish remover. The tobacco industry refuses to say how acetone gets into cigarettes.

    Ammonia - A colorless, pungent gas. The tobacco industry says that it adds flavor, but scientists have discovered that ammonia helps you absorb more nicotine - keeping you hooked on smoking.

    Arsenic - A silvery-white very poisonous chemical element. This deadly poison is used to make insecticides, and it is also used to kill gophers and rats.

    Benzene - A flammable liquid obtained from coal tar and used as a solvent. This cancer-causing chemical is used to make everything from pesticides to detergent to gasoline.

    Benzoapyrene - A yellow crystalline carcinogenic hydrocarbon found in coal tar and cigarette smoke. It's one of the most potent cancer-causing chemicals in the world.

    Butane - A hydrocarbon used as a fuel. Highly flammable butane is one of the key ingredients in gasoline.

    Cadmium - A metallic chemical element used in alloys. This toxic metal causes damage to the liver, kidneys, and the brain; and stays in your body for years.

    Formaldehyde - A colorless pungent gas used in solution as a disinfectant and preservative. It causes cancer; damages your lungs, skin and digestive system. Embalmers use it to preserve dead bodies.

    Lead - A heavy bluish-gray metallic chemical element. This toxic heavy metal causes lead poisoning, which stunts your growth, and damages your brain. It can easily kill you.

    Propylene Glycol - A sweet hygroscopic viscous liquid used as antifreeze and as a solvent in brake fluid. The tobacco industry claims they add it to keep cheap "reconstituted tobacco" from drying out, but scientists say it aids in the delivery of nicotine (tobaccos active drug) to the brain.

    Turpentine - A colorless volatile oil. Turpentine is very toxic and is commonly used as a paint thinner.

    My conclusion is this:
    I have been suffering from Fibro and CFS for a relatively short time, compared to many of you, nine months to be exact. I have totally changed my lifestyle and work situation to remove stressors. I have radically changed my eating habits, alterating my diet to fit the models of what is said to be the best for us. I am taking all the vitamins and supplements and many herbs suggested to fibro and chronic fatigue patients. I have greatly improved my sleep disorders. I have treated a systemic candida infection, and ridded myself of it. I no longer drink alcohol. I am carefully excercising. I am determined to beat these disorders. I will gain a better quality life, and will spare no costs to do so. Smoking 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day is putting toxins into an already compromised body. The cost alone of cigarettes per month could fund a visit to my FM/CFS Specialist which I pay out of pocket, as I am uninsured. Am I going to quite smoking? You bet I am, I have knocked off all the above on my list one step at a time--and I can do this, too. I must do it...I will find life again. Smoking does put toxins into a body--that has its hormonal, endocrine, immune, neurological, gastrointestinal, and many other systems malfunctioning. I want these systems back up and running and not impaired by filtering toxins. I want to be well.
    Your initial question, Does this have any effect on FM---of course it does. Cigarette Smoking is a detriment to anyones health, and those around them. Throw in our disorders, and our poor bodies are already struggling---we are just throwing poisons in there...LL
    Btw--A recent study by Mayo Clinic has produced interesting results. Advantages from reducing number of cigarettes smoked per day, had no benefit. Benefits are obtained, upon total cessation.
  12. Dara

    Dara New Member

    thanks for your concerns regarding how bad smoking is for those of us who smoke. But, I'm sure we all already know that and speaking for myself, I worry about it every time I light up. But, it is an addiction and not an easy one to rid yourself of. Obescity can also be very harmful to your health along with other things. Just because a person continues to smoke doesn't mean they are ignorant of the side affects and damage it causes. It's very easy for someone else to tell you what you should and should not do. Sometimes understanding and compassion are what a person really needs. It's a personal issue and nobody should be condemned for what they do or do not do.

    Dara
  13. Anita B.

    Anita B. New Member

    Idrerup, I notice that you're getting replies mostly from people on the board who smoke or who used to smoke - but I think the majority of us don't smoke. I, and many others with CFS and Fibromyalgia, have such a sensitivity to smoke (which is full of various irritating compounds) and to other chemicals, there is no way we could possibly smoke. I am so sensitive to smoke I cannot even be around people who do smoke, and I have some close friends who I can't see for that reason. I beg them to stop, so I can see them again as well as for their own benefit. I'm so sensitive that if I get on the subway and a smoker sits down next to me (even if she/he hasn't had a cigarette for an hour), I can't stand the odor of smoke on the person's clothes and breath, and I will sometimes get up and move to another seat.
  14. layinglow

    layinglow New Member

    Dara,
    I certainly did not intend for you to have to be on the defensive. I, like many smokers, have become complacent about this addiction. I, like all smokers, am not ignorant of the effects of smoking, but have chosen to ignore them. I have been smoking for thirty five years, in spite of the fact that my mother died of lung cancer at 48 (I am now 45), my father had coronary heart disease resulting in bypass surgery, and an aneurysm the size of my fist on a major artery, resulting in his death, my children had asthma and repeated respiratory infections in early in life, my fourth baby was an underweight baby of 5 lbs, I have a chronic, painful, and disabling syndromes which have compromised my immune system, and changed my life 360 degrees, and a mass on my kidney which needs to grow another mere .5 cm., before they deem it malignant and in need of removing my left kidney (smoking is the number one cause of kidney cancer) , and here I sit to this day, puffing away, on something that is not only detrimental to my health, but to those around me.
    You do not to need to remind me that it is a hard addiction to rid oneself of. Just looking at the above incentives I have had, should be enough. All the “understanding and compassion” you speak of needing though, I have received from my non smoking loved ones for the course of my life, yet compassion and understanding has never motivated me to do anything about this destructive habit. It is NOT a “personal issue”, as you claim. Read the post above regarding chemical sensitivities. Why should others, who have chosen health, be subject to our poisons.
    All this Dara, is to say, I do have something great that has occurred in conjunction with FM and CFS. I have learned such a valuable lesson. For years I have taken my good life and health for granted. I now realize the value my life and health. My life and health are being stolen, malevolently, and I am fighting my toughest battle. I will not let this course continue or worsen. I will do all things necessary to fight off this adversary, including throwing this complacent, it is too hard too tackle, excuse away. I CAN quit smoking for my health, and the health of others.
    Best wishes,
    LL
  15. Dara

    Dara New Member

    well I was really confused. From your first posting I did not realize that you actually smoked, and I would like to tell you that if you have your mind made up to quit then I wish you luck. If you succeed, let me know how you did it.

    Dara
  16. Hippo

    Hippo New Member

    I have been reading this thread with great interest. Just wanted to comment that I have never smoked or drank, and yet I am nearly bedridden with CFS/FM. Go figure.

    Hippo
  17. Dara

    Dara New Member

    I was beginning to think that I was getting paranoid here. Usually smokers don't stand on the soap box.

    Dara
  18. PAT

    PAT New Member

    On my oldest son's(12) birthday. The biggest benefit I see is that I really do have more energy, and don't get fatigued nearly as easily as when I smoked. I don't think the general FM pain has gotten any better, but the pain that I would often have in the muscles of my chest have definitely improved.
    I am just relieved to be done with it. I used the patch.
    I breathe better, smell better, my kids are proud, and best of all, I don't have to stand outside in the feezing cold and soaring heat just to have a nasty cigarette.
    Patti G