Strange Symptoms Medical people, please read

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by janieb, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. janieb

    janieb New Member


    I've had fibro for approximately 20 years and in July I was hospitalized with pancreatitis. That cleared up, but they can find no reason for it locally, or at Mayo in Rochester, MN.

    My third problem is my weight. When I eat, my stomach hurts, and I've reached the point where I'm 25 pounds underweight. My refrigerator is full of ensure and I'm writing down everything I manage to keep down to show my doctor. All tests indicate that my pancrease is find now and it was just a one-time thing they can't explain.

    While doing my nails recently, I noticed that above the white half-moon, every nail has a small area of red that goes around the half-moon.

    Since most of my life, I've done my own nails, this is of concern to me. Do any of you have a clue? I'll be seeing my family doctor in a couple of weeks, but I'm wondering if I should be concerned about this.

    I'd appreciate your help.

  2. BethM

    BethM New Member

    I have no answers for you, but will keep my eyes open for information on red marks on fingernails.

    Also keeping this bumped.

    I hope you find answers soon!

  3. Cromwell

    Cromwell New Member

    Pancreatitis and the ensuing symptoms can often be that you are getting small stones lodges in a small valve called the oddi that is at the end of the pancreas. The trouble is by the time you get an US for it the stone has passed. The other thing is that the balance of sodium bicarbonate that is being squirted out into the stomnach by the pancreas may be off and you can be tested for this.

    As for the nails. It could be anything from a fungus to an allergy to nail polish. I am not a great believer in covering the nails with any substance, but don't quote me!!!(LOL)

    However, the days where doctors would read the nails are sadly gone, though a natropath may help you. Or keep bumping here.

    Love Anne
  4. janieb

    janieb New Member

    I've never heard that small valve mentioned. You are not the first person to mention that kind of doctor. I guess I thought that after being down in my stomach with a camera 3 times they must have covered most things.

    Hoping it isn't a nail fungus. It follows the half moon of the nail in a very neat, red half-moon. However, there sure is a lot about nail funguses lately.

    Would be nice to feel well for a change; even fibro was easier to manage.

    Again, thank you.


  5. apl

    apl New Member


    Did the new red area appear inside the white half-moons (thus making the white part of your half-moons smaller than they were), or is it outside your normal half-moon area?

    I'm looking around and haven't found anything specific to this description, so I was hoping for a little more info. How long ago did it start, is it on all nails (20 fingers and toes)? I found a great website page about nail diagnosis with very good reference photos, but I can't tell if it would be in line with ProHealth's linking rules. I can say that I did a search for muehrcke's lines, and it was the third result with the title "Nail Disease: Signs for the Internist" on the cleveland clinic meded site.

    It would be helpful if you could post a pic of it, but I know that might be difficult.

    This reminds me of something somewhat similar, if anyone here has read Osler's Web, I remember Dr. Cheney discovering that a good number of his CFS patients were losing their fingerprints. It's a tangent, but these kinds of symptoms are mysterious.

    I will keep looking, but hopefully someone will know about this. It might just be that one of your meds or cold weather are affecting your system/circulation, but even so it's worthwhile to ask your doctor.

    Sorry that wasn't much help! If you can find the site I mentioned, it can at least maybe help to rule some things out.
    [This Message was Edited on 10/23/2006]
  6. apl

    apl New Member

    Ok, I just did a search on google for the term: lunula redness (no quotes), and the first result is a discussion on a health board about what sounds like your description.

    I hope you find it. It sounds like the advice given was to seek a dermatologist or internist that has some proficiency in nail symtptoms, as it could be an indicator of several different things.

    Good luck!

    I really hope you feel better soon. Have you been to an herbalist for your stomach? I know that there are very long-used herbs (that are made into an infusion) that can help in that area, depending on your problem of course. Someone also mentioned naturopaths.

    If you would be interested, I could list/describe a few herbal infusions from a couple of very good resources we own. With a doc's ok, they might be something to try?

    edited for typos :)[This Message was Edited on 10/23/2006]
  7. apl

    apl New Member


    for janieb :)
  8. painintheeverywhere

    painintheeverywhere New Member

    My sweet mother suffered a great deal with diabetes related illness and now I strongly believe that she also had FM/CFS and was never diagnosed.

    Her nails were so beautiful! With the peripheral neuropathy, her nails did suffer due to circulation - as another member had suggested. She also lost so much weight and ended up with feeding tubes which we gave her ensure and extra water.

    I am certain that you are not quite in the same situation, however...ask your Rheumatologist. They are thorough and will get to the bottom of this.

    Also, my mother did end up going to Mayo Clinic as well to try to get some relief. I'm not sure if it is incredibly difficult for you to hold down your food, but they actually prescribed Marinol to her (which is a pill form of Marijuana) which helped her tolerate food a little more and gave her the munchies.

    It's kind of funny...she was so against illegal drugs and had a hard time accepting this treatment, but it worked and made such a difference.

    Hugs & Prayers

  9. janieb

    janieb New Member

    I appreciate, so much, the help I'm receiving. I'm going to call my Rhuemy and I do have an appointment with my family doctor soon.

    It's not that I can't keep the food down, it's that I still keep losing weight. After I eat, my stomach, actually a sort of V shape starting between my ribs and spreading out at about my navel, hurts so bad.

    I've lost about 25 pounds, which is alot, since I'm 5'9" and weighed 130 to begin with. I look like something from a bad movie.

    Right now I'm keeping a list of what I eat each day and if I'm not holding my own now, I'm going to ask her to test my thyroid again.

    Will check out the website you suggested. The part of my nail that is red, or deep pink, is right above the white half-moon and follows the same arch.

    Thanks again.

  10. apl

    apl New Member

    Please keep us updated, if you can.

    I'm sorry I paid so much attention to the nails part of your health rather than your stomach/V shaped pain and weight loss, because obviously there is something serious that is wrong with your system.

    You might want to get a referral to an Internist (if your GP isn't already an Internist), or someone else who can check out your pancreas, gall bladder, intestines, etc. I would do that very soon, because this isn't anything to wait around about. I'm not sure who the best specialist would be for that, but I would definitely get a very thorough check of your organs, etc.

    I hope you get good medical attention and are well very soon!

  11. johnston

    johnston New Member

    the mention of diabetes was interesting to me; since insulin is produced by the pancreas; and wt. loss is a symptom of diabetes as is hunger, thirst, frequent urination. Do you have any of those?
    Also, keeping you bumped.............Rhonda
  12. janieb

    janieb New Member

    Thank you for writing. That was very interesting and I had just never thought of it "out of the box." I will be seeing my family doctor soon and I'll ask her about that. I also have a rhume and I may have to see her again.

    I did have an entire battery of tests, including the camera checking out my organs, both near home and at Rochester and the Mayo clinic

    What an astute person you are.

    Thanks, again.


  13. janieb

    janieb New Member

    I'm running a copy of all this and taking it to my appointment. It just makes so much sense to me. There's never been any diabetes in our family, but that doesn't mean there can't be.

    Really appreciate all the information.

    Blessings, janieb

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