sugar, sugar, sugar.......

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by lmn, Nov 19, 2002.

  1. lmn

    lmn New Member

    I was wondering if anyone out there has given up sugar and noticed any real benefits? If so, what are they? Today is my first sugar-free day and I'm hoping I'll be feeling better as the days pass.
    Thanks,
    lmn
  2. lmn

    lmn New Member

    I was wondering if anyone out there has given up sugar and noticed any real benefits? If so, what are they? Today is my first sugar-free day and I'm hoping I'll be feeling better as the days pass.
    Thanks,
    lmn
  3. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    I'm not big on sugar, but I do know that if you drink a lot of water (half you weight in ounces of water per day), it will help with the cravings, almost anykind of cravings.


    Shalom, Shirl

  4. pamela

    pamela New Member

    My probelem was sugar and the other types of sugar you have to watch for like dextrose, lactose, glucose and sucrose...anything that ends in "ose". I had MAJOR, MAJOR never ending fatigue and pain. Even bacon cured in honey or maple sugar (read the label it says dextrose) killed me. So I am a firm believer of NO SUGAR. When I do test it again I really pay. It is hard but you do adjust. Now... I can eat Blue Bell Ice Cream..only Butter Pecan or Vanilla. So I cheat there, but I don't pay in that way. Hope this helps...Pamela
  5. buzby

    buzby New Member

    Hi lmn
    Cutting out sugar is a must. I see a doctor who specialises in environmental medicine. She is adamant about cutting out sugar. It does help. I reduces my headaches and helps with the fatigue. For the best results, read labels carefully. When I first tried this, it took me forever to shop because I spent the time reading all the labels. Sugar is everywhere, but don't dispare, there are many alternatives often found at health food shops.
    Good Luck,
    Buzby
  6. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    First, I saw my blood under an electron microscope before I quit eating sugars, and again after 2 1/2 months without any sugars, and what a difference!
    When I was eating sugars, 85% of my red cells had little bites out of them....it looked like Pac Man had been there. I was told this is caused by free radicals,which run riot because sugars supress your immune system so much. I also had yeast fermentation bubbles, bacteria, undigested fats, something called a "thallus" which means your immune system is on it's last legs, and too many platelets sticking together. These things were all very easy to see with such high magnification.
    After 2 1/2 months without sugars, the only thing I had left that was abnormal at all was too many platelets still sticking together. I later read that anyone who has migraines has this problem, and it is thought to be why migrane sufferers have a higher risk of stroke. I now take a supplement to correct that problem.
    They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and it sure convinced me!
    Also, when I cheat occassionally, I notice a dramatic rise in blood pressure, which I had also been warned about but didn't want to believe until it happened to me. It is enough of a rise to keep me awake at night,and I am sleeping so much better without sugars.
    It was VERY hard to cut out only sugar, but I found it almost easy when I went even further and cut out all of the foods that turn into sugar, ie. sugar, pasta, bread, potatoes, corn, carrots, beets. It sounds even harder, but it squashes the cravings once and for all.
    Good luck to you,
    Klutzo
  7. kadywill

    kadywill New Member

    that this will be nearly impossible for me....I eat foods containing sugars or starches a lot. Not fast foods or candy and cookies or ice cream, but starchy foods....I have an aversion to a lot of meats and veggies and the ones I do like are starchy veggies. I have cut out all caffeine and aspertame and I drink OVER half my body weight in ounces of water a day, but I just don't know if I can do THIS. It is just the two of us and we eat out at a little "joint" down the road a lot and I haven't a clue what I would eat there on this plan. My husband won't eat out anywhere else due to $$$ and convenience and he ALWAYS eats the same thing: a hamburger steak and a double salad. I tire quickly of a hamburger and all of their other meats are loaded with sodium, which is can't have and I don't like salty foods. Now that I am on Short term disability and am at home, I can think more about my diet, but I have to be very thrifty....money IS an object now. Any advice??? 'cause my quick lunch is a Jif P'nut butter sandwich and I KNOW it's a no-no.........I wish someone would post a big old bunch of foods that I could eat. I hate salad dressings, tomatoes, onions, brocolli, asparagus, cauliflower, mayo....see, I can't FORCE myself to eat these things. They'd come right back up if I got them down, I mean it! And the same old meats make me wanna hurl after a few days. I don't like omelets at all. Plain eggs get really tiresome. PLEASE write a post on favorite foods that don't cost a mint....no pun intended! lol
    Love,
    Kady
    [This Message was Edited on 11/19/2002]
  8. Stormy214

    Stormy214 New Member

    I say "Oh dear" because I'm not qualified to give advice in this arena. Historically, I've had the world's most terrible diet, and genetically, I am one of those people inclined to be thin. I tried to cut out the sugars, starches (potatoes, pasta, white flours, etc--all the things from my diet that are said to worsen fibro symptoms. The problem for me was that when I did that, I went down two pant sizes in a week, and was left feeling more fatigued and in more pain. I could barely get out of bed in the morning. I believe that diet is another one of those things that we need to sort out individually, to find whatever our body needs or reacts to; I don't think there is any hard and fast rule. The reason I say this is because a lady I know who has had fibro for 15 years went on the atkins diet and after 3 weeks on it, went into remission and has been there for 2 months. As in NO PAIN, period! That was what prompted me to change my diet, and I got worse. *shrug* Not even going to try to offer advice here, just telling you my story.
    Stormy
  9. kadywill

    kadywill New Member

    that old jealous monster just reared it's ugly head. I would give a fortune to be able to say that I am too skinny and that I lose weight by eating anything at all........I am so happy that you don't have the problem with weight that THIS girl has!!! lol
    Love,
    Kady
    [This Message was Edited on 11/19/2002]
  10. ssMarilyn

    ssMarilyn New Member

    I have an addiction to sugar, so it is really difficult for me to eat just a "little" bit. Sometimes I jump off the wagon and it can take me MONTHS to get back on it! When I do stop sugar, within a few days my mind is a clear as a bell and I'm in such a good mood that I can't stand myself! :) I also have energy and ambition to burn when off sugar! When "on" sugar, I have what feels like a dark cloud hanging over my head no matter where I go. It's really gloomy, and I would say it's a tad bit of depression. I also get moody, snappy, lazy and stupid!

    Marilyn :)
  11. ssMarilyn

    ssMarilyn New Member

    Look at it this way.....if you, me and Stormy were shipwrecked on a desert island with almost zero food, who would kick the bucket first from starvation?? Hmmmm....but then again, who would want to be the LAST one to croak on that island... Darned if you are and darned if you aren't!!

    Marilyn :)
  12. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Any differences, and you may feel worse before feeling better. After eight days on very low carb diet, my blood pressure went from high/normal to low/normal.

    Sugar is one of the worst things for us. Do a search on "diet" or "Syndrome X" and you can read some old posts which deal with this.

    Love, Mikie
  13. lmn

    lmn New Member

    Thanks for the sugar info. I kind of knew how bad sugar is but I've been in major denial. I love chocolate and frozen cappachinos!! Today is day 2 with very little sugar - I couldn't go cold turkey (I have no willpower!!). After reading your posts I am definitely going ahead with my plan.
    Could be my grouchiness, fatigue, and "dark cloud" feelings are caused by sugar. I am dying to see if my muscle pain lessens too! Drinking more water will help with my weight loss I imagine. Thank you so much for responding! I'm feeling good about this already!!!
    lmn
    And Susan, candida is not an issue for me. Is it caused by too much sugar comsumption?
  14. pepper

    pepper New Member

    you will see it disappear before your eyes over the first weeks of being sugar-free, especially if you drink a lot of water too. Sugar is so bad for us, it is worth getting over the "hump" of cravings which usually last only 3 or 4 days.
    Pepper
  15. kadywill

    kadywill New Member

    candy, cookies, ice cream, chips, etc., but I eat a lot of carbs everyday. I eat p'nut butter sandwiches, I eat potatoes any way you fix them, I eat poptarts or toast for breakfast, I eat rice and I don't like brown rice at all, I eat crackers in my soup, I east pasta. I eat corn, limas, carrots, and all kinds of fruits. These are my staples. I'll eat chicken, fish and some red meat, but I don't eat mayo, mustard, tomatoes, onions and most salad fixins/dressings, so my salads are bland and boring and not too appetizing.
    How does someone with strong likes/dislikes change to a low carb diet with having a total breakdown? I cannot force myself to eat foods that I dislike; can't get them down and if I could, I'd throw them up. I swear this is the truth. I'm this way with liquid meds and any alcoholic drinks....I just can't swallow it. Don't know why.
    Does anyone have any advice? I have completely stopped caffeine and Nutrasweet and soft drinks... I drink a gallon of water each and every day. I eat few fried foods. I use olive oil/canola oil. I avoid margarine. I walk in the park every day. I participate in water therapy three days a week. I take my meds and supplements. I live a quiet, but happy life with my loving husband in a small town. I just stopped working as a nurse and am a homemaker for the very first time in my 47 years. I avoid stress. I don't have evenings out. I no longer read a newspaper and I do not watch the news now. I have routine medical exams and dental exams. I have never smoked. I have never used illegal drugs. I am a Christian. I love my family.
    The point is: I have few vices. I would LOVE to eat a more sensible diet, i.e. little or no carbs/sugar. I am overweight secondary to decreased activity, increased intake and medications. Can ANYONE help me with this? I have looked up all I can and I don't have any more ideas now after doing so. I need a non-fancy diet plan that I won't get too bored with, that is simple to cook, inexpensive to buy and which contains foods that won't make me gag!!!! Advice???????

    Love,
    Kady
  16. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    You can have fruit on her diet if you eat it by itself. If I want chocolate, I can stir a little unsweetened cocoa powder into a cup of coffe and sweeten with Stevia. Yummmm, chocolate mocca.

    Love, Mikie
  17. selmad

    selmad New Member

    Cutting out sugar ( still use some pure maple syrup, raw honey, and Rapadura whole sugar as substitues--but very little), gluten containing grains (like wheat), alcohol, and dairy immediatley cut my pain level in half. My acupunturist tried to get me off of wheat and dairy for a year and I didn't believe her insisting I had always eaten those my whole life and did not have problems. Boy , was I wrong!------ Try just eating meats , veggies, rice (brown and white), and winter squash/sweet potatoes( not white potatoes) and drink water- with nuts for snacks and a small amount of fruit occasionally--and you willl be amazed at how much better you feel and sleep.

    My experience has shown that my body does not tolerate sugar --or foods that rapidly turn to sugar i.e alchohol, pasta , bread--- and my mother who also has FMS is the same.

    Get off it and your mind will be clearer, you will have more energy and your pain will diminish. ( of course no caffeine either--no coffee- just some good organic herbal teas).

    I have read alot on sugar-- one thing I read says that it shuts your immune system down fo r6 hrs after consuming. Also read that it pulls calcium and minerals out of your body----- affecting your nervous system etc.
    Not only do your muscles , bones, need calcium-but so does you nervous system--and I think you'll find that most of us with FMS have an anxiety/nervous system issue--which is why we don't sleep at night!
  18. pamela

    pamela New Member

    YOU COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!! ALL OF THIS EVERYBODY HAS JUST MENTIONED IS ME TOTALLY. NO SUGAR ANYMORE..LOL!!! ANYWAY THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THE INFO..

    LOTS OF LOVE ...PAMELA
  19. 2girls

    2girls New Member

    I think sugar may be the culprit contributing to my many mouth sores/burning mouth. I have been playing Nancy Drew lately, trying to figure out was was causing it. I cut out sugar completely last month and, just to be sure, occasionally consumed it (Poppycock, which I love) or candy. Each time, mouth sores and burning tongue errupted. I now know not to eat it, so I read labels etc. It's going to be really hard during the xmas season since I love to bake. I have also cut out gluten. My system sure does not miss them, but my tastebuds do!

    2girls
  20. beans

    beans New Member

    I go on and off sugar and still when on it I eat far less than many people.

    It does help.
    Not a cure.

    I am wanting to get off it again.

    I eat more of it when I feel stressed to get things done or when there is more to do.

    Beans