that (TOXIC) new car smell

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by BethM, Sep 26, 2005.

  1. BethM

    BethM New Member

    in an article on AOL's home page, the toxicity of that new car smell was discussed. It comes from VOLs, volatile organic compounds that outgas from the plastics, paints and other components used in car manufacture. The auto makers are finally acknowleging that this is toxic stuff, and present in much higher amounts than are deemed safe. They have plans to correct this problem. Soon, I hope! I can't set foot in a new car without feeling ill.

    IMHO, it's about time they realized they are poisoning their customers! Ya think?????

  2. smiffy79

    smiffy79 New Member

    wow thanks for this. i always wondered why i felt sick and unwell after being in my car, i thought i was just being over whelmed by the heavy smell (i cant tolerate some smells and perfumes).

    now they have acknowledged a problem lets hope they fix it soon.
  3. jana15

    jana15 New Member

    for bringing this to our attention. I too suffer badly from 'that' smell! I also have a hard time with nw carpet, furniture etc. Lately my big one is the stench from the drycleaners, so the family are currently banned from having anything drycleaned - it makes me so sick I have to go to bed for a few days. I am also strarting to react to passive cigarette smoke. I have nothing against smokers but I can't bear to be near them even if they're not smoking, just the smell of their clothes is enough to start me feeling dizzy and ill.

    Cheers Jana
  4. BethM

    BethM New Member

    good info to share.

    peace, Beth
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  5. BethM

    BethM New Member

    I need fresh air, hope never again to live where the air smells bad from smog! When I get home from work, first thing I do is open the windows.

    I'd like to buy a hybrid car, but don't know how to manage the outgassing problem from the new materials. leave the windows down for a week before I drive it??? sigh. won't happen for a long while yet on my budget, regardless!

    I wonder how the auto folks will solve this problem. hope they don't just try to mask the smells with other chemicals!

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  6. Grailgoddess

    Grailgoddess New Member

    That new-car smell might be toxic
    Japanese automakers taking measures to tone down the fumes
    Japanese manufacturers, including Toyota, have become the first to set an industrywide goal of reducing cabin concentrations of potentially toxic chemicals — the new-car smell —to within government guidelines. Damian Dovarganes / AP
    TOKYO - Anyone who's pulled away from the dealer's lot in a shiny, new sedan knows the seductive scent of fresh plastic, paint and upholstery that evokes a rush of pride and consumer satisfaction.
    But that unmistakable new-car smell may soon be heading the way of the rumble seat: Recent research linking it to a toxic cocktail of harmful chemicals is spurring efforts by Japanese automakers to tone down the fumes.
    Japanese manufacturers, including Toyota Motor Corp., have become the first to set an industrywide goal of reducing cabin concentrations to within government guidelines. The push could spur similar action by U.S. and European rivals, making interior air quality an emerging auto safety issue.
    "The industry in Japan as a whole has recognized the need for this and is coordinating efforts," Toyota spokesman Paul Nolasco said. "Cutting down on the things that lead to these smells is only something that can be better for you."
    The new-car smell emanates largely from chemicals known as volatile organic compounds, or VOCs, that leach from glues, paints, vinyls and plastics in the passenger compartment. The fumes can trigger headaches, sore throats, nausea and drowsiness. Prolonged exposure to some of the chemicals can lead to cancer, though there's no evidence linking that to concentrations in cars.
    Critics liken the problem to so-called sick-building syndrome, which traces some illnesses to similar agents seeping from the walls, carpets and fixtures of new buildings. Just sitting in a new car can subject riders to toxic emissions several times the limits deemed safe for homes or offices by some health authorities, though the problem tends to dissipate after about six months, according to a 2001 study by Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization.
    "We find new car interiors have much higher VOC levels than any building we've researched," research leader Steve Brown said. "Ultimately, what we need are cars with interior materials that produce lower emissions."
    Japanese automakers are now trying to do just that.
    Earlier this year, they agreed to cut cabin levels of 13 of the compounds, including possible cancer-causing agents styrene and formaldehyde, by 2007 to match Japanese Health Ministry guidelines for air quality in homes.
    The Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association initiated the drive after tests found some models made by three of the nation's top carmakers failed to meet government recommendations.
    The industry group refused to identify which companies or models were evaluated.
    Automakers worldwide have been trying to reduce volatile organic compounds for years. But the Japanese effort marks the first time the industry has adopted government guidelines, JAMA's Tatsuya Ota said.
    Most of Japan's top five makers — Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi and Mazda — are already rolling out cars in compliance and touting the lower volatile organic compound levels as a key selling point, a move that is likely to catch on globally.
    "There is good potential for the Japanese to take the lead in this field," said Koji Endo, an auto analyst with Credit Suisse First Boston in Tokyo. "People are starting to feel that VOCs are an issue, and the new efforts are one advantage that they (Japanese manufacturers) can claim."
    Brown says he does not know of any government with volatile organic compound guidelines for car interiors, but says matching building levels is a good start. Japan's recommendations were adopted in 2002 to combat sick-building syndrome.
    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency sets no guidelines for volatile organic compounds in non-industrial settings, though formaldehyde is regulated as a carcinogen by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
    The Washington-based Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which represents nine carmakers including General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG, says it does not follow the issue of volatile organic compounds. DaimlerChrysler said it has no initiatives on the volatile organic compound-induced new-car fumes.
    Toyota, Japan's largest automaker, currently has six models on the road that meet the new standards, while Nissan has four. Honda's new Civic, unveiled this month, is that company's first, while Mitsubishi will begin its lineup with the "i" next year.
    All say they are on track to have all new models pass muster from 2007.
    While some customers complain about the new-car smell, others cherish it enough to have spawned a cottage industry in aerosol "new-car sprays" to keep their rides smelling fresh from the factory.
    "Some people are annoyed by the smell and some people love it," Honda spokesman Takayuki Fuji said. "This is not just for Honda users, but for all users."
    © 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
  7. Bruin63

    Bruin63 Member

    The New's yesterday was talking about this, they pointed out how dangerous it was for Babies, in paticular, as well as us Older folks, (just talking about me being old).
    ANyway, I always loved the smell of new car's, and so far I haven't had to worry about it, as I can't afford one, lol.

    Thanks for bringing this Topic to our attention, also, don't forget thoes Christmastree air cleaners.
    They are Banned from Car, DH, tries to hide his smoking smell, in his Truck, and all it does is make me sicker.

    Now I have a older car, my Son's, and it's smoke free, and I plan on it staying that way.

    Hope your Day's a Great one,

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