This message is for Klutzo

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by lucky, Nov 8, 2002.

  1. lucky

    lucky New Member

    Hello, Klutzo;
    I managed to find one webpage which is giving you the details on Klosterfrau Melissengeist in English. It at least gives you an idea what this is all about.
    When you search under Klosterfrau Melissengeist you will find under Health Products a short translation on this 'medieval' health potion. Let me know how you are making out. Take care and good luck, Lucky
  2. lucky

    lucky New Member

    Hello, Klutzo;
    I managed to find one webpage which is giving you the details on Klosterfrau Melissengeist in English. It at least gives you an idea what this is all about.
    When you search under Klosterfrau Melissengeist you will find under Health Products a short translation on this 'medieval' health potion. Let me know how you are making out. Take care and good luck, Lucky
  3. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    I'll check it out. It must have been several pages in, because I went through 2 full pages of links, using Google, and it was all in German.
    Klutzo
  4. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    I went through 10 pages of links this time and never found anything in English, but I did see enough snatches of English here and there to pick up two things: 1) one link said it is an "ancient cold and flu remedy", not menopausal at all. 2) another said it has Giinseng in it, which is a no-no for anyone like me with high blood pressure.
    I thought this was a tonic for irritability due to hormonal problems in menopause? That's what I need. I almost never get colds and flu.
    Klutzo
  5. lucky

    lucky New Member

    Will do some more research on it when I have more time. And I already sent an e-mail to Germany to find out more about this product. My best bet, however is when I go to the store myself next week and can see for myself.
    So, you'll hear from me as soon as I know more. I wonder if HRT would be of some help for you. For some women it is absolutely necessary. I am sure, Klutzo, that it would help with a lot of your problems at the moment. So long, and take care, Lucky
  6. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    I will await your news on this product! I already took ERT fr 3 yrs.(I don't need HRT since my uterus was taken out). It put a lot of weight on me, and all in the wrong places. The extra weight caused me to have to start taking blood pressure medicine. I am now losing the weight the hard way, as stopping the ERT didn't take the weight off like I hoped it would. It definitely helped me some with my moods, but I have read that if you gain weight on it, then you need to have all your hormones tested and get an individualized formula made up at a compounding pharmacy. To that end, I am seeing a Psychoneuroendocrinologist in 2 weeks and asking him about testing my testosterone, DHEA, fractionated estrogens (as recommended by MadWolf here on the Board), etc. to see if that will help. I'd rather stay nasty and keep the weight off if that is the only choice, since I have a very high heart attack risk ratio. Also, I live in Florida, where being fat just makes the heat and humidity that much harder to take.
    Thanks for any info you find on this. Are you planning to try it for menopausal symptoms also?
    Klutzo
  7. lucky

    lucky New Member

    I had a complete hysterectomy a long time ago and have been on HRT since then. Since I was always underweight, I did gain a few pounds, but most of my weight gain came from the tricyclic drugs which I was put on when I was diagnosed with CFS almost 15 yrs. ago, but my weight has been constant since I am on Celexa now. I certainly could lose a few pounds, but this is the trade off. However, since I do not have other problems with the SRI, my quality of life has increased substantially since I am on them.
    Even with what they call a partical hysterectomy and on top of it going through menopause now, I am almost sure that HRT would be helping you a lot. In my case, I cannot tolerate the pills, and I am on a patch. As a matter of fact there are very new patches out there and some of which contain soya. I am almost sure, if you check it out, that there will be hardly any weight gain involved taking the newer patches on the market. I am positive that even for you the benefits would be outweighing the disadvantages.
    I just had all the hormones etc. checked, like you are going to, by an endro, and I have the copy right in front of me, there is nothing absolutely nothing abnormal. I had the hormones checked many times before to just make sure that they are in order. Now I have added a little testerone jelly with it, which I am rubbing on my upper arm when I am very fatigued. However, I am really feeling positive that after reading a few of your messages that some of your problems are related to these hormone imbalances as well and whatever you decide to do, I hope that you do get a break and feel better. By the way, the minute I am getting low on estrogen, I am getting jittery and even more fatigued and am even more moody than I sometimes already am.
    I hopefully will hear from you because I am so positive that there is more which can be done for you. Meanwhile, hang in there and all my very best, Lucky
  8. PaulMark

    PaulMark New Member

    Dear Lucky: since you are e mailing Germany, someone on here mentioned the "sleep cure" in Germany,

    I've asked does anyone know what thhis is??


    I do know that Dr. Cheney my dr. (cfids) said coma is the deepest healing state of all, it heals the hypathlmic HPA axis suppression, but who in this country is goign to put someone in medical induced coma and who would pay for it

    ins. companies? what a joke.

    thanks PM
  9. lucky

    lucky New Member

    according to my knowlegde, what a sleep cure means in Germany is that a doctor enduces a deep sleep for days on end so that the body can heal. Not recommended on any German website for CFS/FMS. As a matter of fact the Germans are far far behind in their dealings with these illnesses and are getting their infos mostly from American sources. Take care, Lucky
  10. LindaGa

    LindaGa New Member

    in 1979 when I was in Phy hospital they did sleep theraphy on a woman dont know for what but she felt great after> This was in Hollywood,Fla at memorial hospital the main one that has the rosental phy unit.So it must also be in usa.LindaGa
  11. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    I do feel hormones are my main problem. I'll let everyone know what this specialist says. That's still almost 2 wks. away, so don't hold your breath.
    Klutzo
  12. lucky

    lucky New Member

    I just noticed your message and I am sure that you will find out a lot more about your hormonal imbalances after you do see the endro. It will be interesting to know.
    Meanwhile, I did find a little more on this Klosterfrau, and indeed, it is highly recommended for many things, i.e.
    nervous system, depression, nervousness, insomnia,
    menstrual problems, fighting inflammation and viral
    infections, indigestion, muscle spasms.
    Melissa which is also called 'lemon balm' has a special effect on the nervous system and muscle pain.
    I am not so sure about the alcohol content, but as far as I could read it has 75% or if one calls etherical oils alcohol, that's what it is. Will make further studies next week. Meanwhile, take care and enjoy the weekend. Lucky
  13. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    I have already taken several concoctions with lemon balm, as well as drinking tea with it in. No help. Look forward to further info.
    Thanks for the news.
    Klutzo

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