Transfer Factors Still Working

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Mikie, Mar 8, 2006.

  1. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    I've seen some interest in transfer factors recently and thought I'd post about my experience with them. I've been on them a long time but can't remember when I started. I think, at least a year ago. I took them for three months straight and then pulsed them every six weeks for only two days.

    When I first took them, I could only sprinkle a little of the powder under my tongue. It was a month before I could tolerate a whole capsule. I take the TF C and the TF 200 sold here. I had such a strong reaction in the beginning. My lymph nodes were swelled up, my throat was sore, I had headaches, I had aches and pains, and the fatigue was overwhelming. Still, I continued because I knew it had to get worse before it gets better.

    Finally, my immune system started to come alive and it went on a major killing spree, causing a big Herxheimer Effect. I had burning and chilling in my torso area, profuse sweating, nausea, and dizzyness. After a day of this, I really felt so much better because a lot of nasty beasties had been killed and purged from my system.

    I continued to Herx off and on during the three months. Now, when I pulse the TF's every six weeks, I have an immune response and then a Herx. I Herxed this morning and it was a big one. I've been fighting off a virus/cold thing and I think the TF's caused my immune system to kill off a lot of things. I had the usual diarrhea from hell, got very hot and sweaty, felt dizzy, and vomited so hard that it came out my nose.

    Now, Y'all, I know this isn't a pretty picture to paint but when one is full of chronic infection, it has to get worse before it gets better. I Herx fast and hard and do not take anything to ease the Herxing. I just get it over with.

    Immunity from the TF's isn't permanent, so after the initial few months, one has to pulse them for a few days every four to six weeks. Some people just stay on them because they feel so much better. They are quite expensive, so I opt for pulsing them. Typically, anything which kills pathogens is more effective when pulsed.

    I really believe in the TF's as they have worked far better than ABX or AV's. I think it may be helpful for a course of ABX and/or AV's before starting the TF's to get the pathogen load down a little. ABX and AV's only cause the pathogens to die. The TF's train the immune system to recognize and kill the pathogens.

    I am going to post this on the TF Board as well. I'm also going to post my CFIDS regimen for newer members here. Hope this helps anyone interested in the TF's.

    Love, Mikie
  2. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

  3. TwinMa

    TwinMa New Member

    Thank you for the good transfer factor information! I am currently taking Acyclovir to treat CMV and EBV. I plan to start TF System 100 after I'm done with the Acyclovir. Fortunately for me, it is one of the "cheaper" TF's.

    Any suggestions on how long I should take the AV before I start the TF?

    Here is a good link that shows which pathogens the different TF's attack.

    http://www.transferfactor.ws/

    Katy
  4. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    It does mention ProHealth/ImmuneSupport for purchasing but it also mentions other companies, so I don't know whether the URL will be deleted or not. There really is a lot of good info there, so much in fact, that I bookmarket it for future reading. Thanks.

    Love, Mikie
  5. TwinMa

    TwinMa New Member

    I emailed ProHealth a question about which pathogens were targeted by which TF and this was the website they referred me to. So hopefully they will allow it here!
  6. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    I'm glad to hear that. PH used to have a matrix about which TF's target which pathogens.

    I don't know if this had anything to do with its being gone but I know that the FDA clamped down on claims made by websites selling supplements.

    Thanks again.

    Love, Mikie
  7. Bunchy

    Bunchy New Member

    First I took the TF Essentials for a couple of months last year when I was in a very bad post-viral phase with a lot of muscle pain and fatigue and I didn't ntice any difference - do you have any idea why this didn't work?

    Secondly is there a TF formula that targets Lyme as I can't tolerate ABX or Samento?

    Thanks,

    Bunchy x
  8. JenniferAnn539

    JenniferAnn539 New Member

    Mikie,

    Thanks for sharing your experience!

    I am so happy you are getting such good results.
  9. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Thanks for your replies.

    Bunchy, colostrum, whey, and TF Essentials are all long-term immune system helpers. One may not notice a big difference in how one feels but this isn't always the best measure of how a supplement is doing. If one is really sick or post viral, it can take the body a long time to heal. These things help but are not going to really produce feelings of energy. We never know how much worse we might be feeling without them.

    Transfer Factor C targets Lyme. It targets a lot of other things as well. It is expensive but one only needs to take it for three months, if following Dr. Brewer's Protocol, and then pulse it for a couple of days every 4-6 weeks. Once you get to the pulsing stage, it last a long time.

    The TF Essentials just helps the immune system but doesn't target specific pathogens. I'll bet you will see a difference with the TF C. If it causes an immune reaction and Herxing, it is working.

    Love, Mikie
  10. elsa

    elsa New Member

    Are wonderful things ..... and I can honestly say they keep right on working.

    Had some type of infection .... lymph node blew up and then moved ... Left side of my neck has always been my area that reacts to germs ....

    In a matter of 4 or 5 days, my immune system ( boosted by TF's) took care of the problem. No down time, no fever, sore throat or congestion .... And I kept right on working and living life ....

    As of last night / early this morning ... no swollen glands. No sign of infection and I feel very well.

    For those of you interested in Mikie's CFS treatment protocol I can second it's effectiveness. I didn't follow all of it but the AV's, TF's, whey protein concentrate and colostrum are all on my protocol too. They not only helped put me in remission, they continue to help keep me in it ..
    I highly recommend them.

    Mikie, it's great to see your protocol posted. It has benefitted lots of us in the past .... by re-posting, alot of our new members will get a chance to try it for themselves.

    Take care,

    Elsa
  11. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    I'm so glad you are doing well and the things you are taking are keeping you in remission.

    I really think when we first get sick enough to find out what we have, we are totally unprepard for what it takes to heal and get these illnesses under control. Of course, some of us are sicker than others and we can have different chronic infections and other triggers. This complicates things more when trying to find what works. It's tempting to try something for three months and if we don't feel a lot better, stop taking it. We have to treat our illnesses on as many fronts as necessary and most of what we do is long term. The alternative is to simply do nothing and get worse. There are spontaneous remissions but I don't think we can count on them.

    My regimen is so similar to what they do at the FFC's except that I never had all the testing. I post because I want new members to see that one needn't go to an expensive clinic to develop a treatment plan. I think it's wonderful for those who can afford it to go. If we can't, it doesn't have to mean we can't effectively treat our conditions with our docs. Our FFC members have been so generous in sharing their experiences. I have always admired Tansy so much because she developed her own regimen against all odds in an environment very hostile to people with our illnesses.

    I have developed a great respect for the transfer factors. They are similar in some ways to the phages which Russia has used to fight infections for years. The TF's do not infect us and, other than strong Herxing, they generally are safe. I always recommend talking with one's doc first, though. If I knew back then what I know now, I probably would have opted for the TF's instead of the ABX and AV's. I might have started a short course of them before the TF's, but the majority of my treatment would have consisted of the TF's. I'm not sure the TF for mycoplasma was around when I started the Doxy for that.

    I feel really great following this latest Herx. I always do once my body purges that nasty stuff out.

    Thanks again for your info. I know it will help others.

    Love, Mikie
  12. elsa

    elsa New Member

    For many there are so many avenues to look down for treatment that it can get frustrating and difficult just keeping things straight. It wouldn't take much to throw everything up in the air and scream "I Quit!"

    I got lucky on alot of fronts. I don't think I have been sick as long as most ... That helps alot in treatment length.

    I had from the start very supportive family, workplace and primary doctor. I found this board only a few months after official diagnosis ....

    All of the above made it possible for me to research, ask questions and locate all the tools, specialists and suppliers I needed to launch my treatment plan.

    Like you, my treatment plan has mirrored FFC's closely. One does not have to be a patient there to get better, although it would have been very, very helpful just to walk in and say "help me" vs do all the research and planning on my own.

    I'm so glad you are doing well .... Thanks for re-energising your treatment plans and pathways ... A great deal of it worked for me .... can't help but work for others.

    Take care,

    Elsa
  13. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Just wanted you to know I saw your last post.

    Love, Mikie