UNITED KINGDOM citizens, is this true?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by quanked, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. quanked

    quanked Member

    APRIL 3, 2009

    A Mom Brokers Treatment for Her Twins' Fatal Illness
    Bucking Scientific Convention, Ms. Hempel Gets Researchers From Different Fields to Share Data on Potential Therapy

    This is a comment about the above article (the link is below—from the Wall Street Journal)

    • Under a nationalized health care system, this never could happen. In Brittain, a board of bureaucrats would have said "No. These girls will waste resources. They are terminal. No treatment, no experiments."

    In fact, in England, if you have a diagnosis of COPD and meet a threshold of illness level, they are not allowed to incubate you in an emergency room. Seriously, they look up patient history, and the staff decides if they think you might get well. If they are not optimistic, staff merely watches as the person asphyxiates.


    I am inspired by and proud of Ms. Hempel.
    sincerely, Terri Hastings

    Is this true of UK?


  2. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Active Member

    I don't know if there is any truth in that statement or not. I do know from watching a recent documentary about the American health care system that too often people in the US are treated when it was obvious to the doctor and medical staff that the patient was too far gone and didn't have any hope of recovery.
  3. quanked

    quanked Member

  4. denis321

    denis321 New Member

    while I read it sometimes for information, generally the WSJ and its readers tend to be more business-oriented and, I believe, less likely to want a national health care system in the US like the one they have in the UK.

    I think the proof is mostly when you ask people from the UK what they think of their healthcare system. While it is not perfect and there are restrictions, they are not as dire as they are made out to be.

    Realize also that insurance companies in the US have restrictions also about what they will and will not cover but most people aren't aware of them until they get sick. And they won't even consider you if you have a pre-existing condition.

    I have family/ friends in Canada, some healthy, some sick. They appreciate the healthcare they get and feel sorry for us Americans.
  5. victoria

    victoria New Member

    Many are not happy with it, others are. Not sure what a national poll would show, but I know they have a deficit of General Practitioners in many areas firstly, and the GPs are the "first line", the ones who make the referrals to specialists. No GP, no referral to anyone.

    That is one thing I am absolutely against. We would have gotten nowhere when my son was showing very bad symptoms from Lyme, as nobody could recognize it. Even when my daughter in 1992 had Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever, it was nearly missed as it was. Most doctors, even specialists in internal med or pediatrics, do not get to see everything. Yes we busted our retirement down next to nothing, but at least we had a chance to get him care that would've been denied in Canada.

    There's certainly been a lot of stories about those (who could afford it) that would've had to wait too long in Canada for treatment and instead went to the US for things like cancer surgery/treatment, and, especially, for lyme.

    So, I am guessing in general for most people they are satisfied if they fall within the general illness categories easily...

    but given what has happened to those of us dx'd with CFIDS/FM/ME and things like Lyme that unfortunately become controversial and political?

    -- I'm willing to bet that population would be very dissatisfied if polled as a sector in any of our countries. And I'm not a gambling person.

    all the best,

    (PS imho, HC needs to have the anti-trust law exemption lifted and health coverage should be opened up for competition and co-ops. Look at what competition did for bringing down prices on telephones and other things.)