Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

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  1. simpsons

    simpsons Member



    http://www.newsmax.com/health/vaccine_swine_flu/2009/07/07/232717.html

    Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

    Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54 AM

    By: Dr. Russell Blaylock Article Font Size

    An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness.

    Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.

    Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

    It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

    This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,"Where the hell it got all these genes from we don't know." Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

    Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

    The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

    The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

    The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.

    Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world's pandemic vaccine.

    Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

    Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

    So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern—squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

    The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

    I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found—to no surprise—that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in "prestigious" medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

    Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig's disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart's inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

    Because squalene, the main ingredient in MF-59, can induce hyperimmune responses and induce autoimmunity, a real danger exists for prolonged activation of the brain's immune cells, the microglia. This type of prolonged activation has been strongly associated with such diseases as multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, ALS and possibly vaccine-related encephalitis. It has been shown that activation of the systemic immune system, as occurs with vaccination, rapidly activates the brain's microglia at the same time, and this brain inflammation can persist for long periods.

    So, how would the gp120 get into the brain? Studies of other immune adjuvants using careful tracer techniques have shown that they routinely enter the brain following vaccination. What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most such studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination—these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.

    It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic. Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations—everybody pays.

    One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself—at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death.

    There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.

    © 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserve
  2. frickly

    frickly New Member

    Thanks for the information.
  3. TeaBisqit

    TeaBisqit Member

    I think the death rate seems very low and I see no reason for forced experimental vaccines that might not even work anyway. And who knows what they will do to you when you already have a messed up immune system. I'm not letting anyone give me anything.

    If the death rate is that low, I don't understand why they are making such a big deal out of this flu. None of it makes sense.
  4. MsE

    MsE New Member

    Thanks for the very complete article. I appreciate it.

    Someone posted a reply that the vaccine may be mandatory. Good grief! That's all I would need to completely frost my cake! And probably knock me down for six months at least. I do not do well with meds.
  5. babyk902

    babyk902 New Member

    and i thought the person who told me this was absolutely insane! but i guess there's a possibility it will be.. I just don't see how they can force something like that on you.. we just need to get healthier by the time the vaccines come out so our bodies can handle it, i'm overdosing on antioxidants til then!
  6. gapsych

    gapsych New Member


    I really doubt that the vaccines will be mandatory.

    Consider the source.

    Dr. Russel Blaylock is really on the fringe. He wants NO government interference in anything, says he does not believe in the scientific method and is into the vaccine and other conspiracies mindthink. Not credible in my book.

    He makes generalizations, exaggerates and sometimes outright lies.

    Vaccinations should be mandatory for health workers. They can still choose to not get the vaccine but just not work with patients. It would be unethical for the medical profession to be at risk of exposing patients.

    gap
  7. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    there are laws already in place in many states that allow for road blockades and forced vaccinations at these (these are to be utilized at each states' discretion)....I will have to find the link later bc I don't have time rt now, but it is goes to specific state websites and comes from a trusted source


    and no matter how healthy, our bodies cannot be prepared or be ok with having vaccines, esp ones that are shown to be unsafe (that's like saying that if we are healthy enough we could just sit down and inject ourselves with poison and be ok - not possible - and how likely are WE to get healthy soon anyway?!)
  8. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    This is an article from Dr Mercola's emails that explains more about the vaccinations (unfortunately I don't know how to link to the video that is part of this or to include clickable links to the other stuff mentioned, but if you copy/paste you should be able to get there)....it also has some mention of great links to further info (inc the state legislation re forced vaccinations and another website NVIC that has a lot of helpful info)....Since it is so long, I added >>>> in front of some esp significant paragraphs (I also added a separate post that just mentions the key points)

    Warning: Swine Flu Vaccine Coming Soon


    Specialty drug maker Baxter International Inc. says it's in "full scale" production of a swine flu vaccine. The vaccine will be commercially available in July.

    The company made its announcement one day after the World Health Organization declared swine flu a global pandemic.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports 45 swine flu deaths nationwide.

    The National Vaccine Information Center will hold its 4th conference in Washington, DC, October 2-4 of this year. I will be speaking there as will some of the leading experts in vaccines in the world. Clearly the best vaccine conference in the world and it is only held every few years. If this is of any interest to you I would strongly encourage you to attend.

    Sources:

    Washington Post June 13, 2009

    National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) June 18, 2009

    Dr. Mercola''s Comments:

    As I predicted in my first swine flu alert, a fast-tracked swine flu vaccine was promptly ordered, and will be available as early as July. Pharmaceutical giant Baxter claims it has patented technology that cuts the usual vaccine development time in half, to about 13 weeks instead of 26.

    Although many governments and health organizations are probably celebrating this feat, you have no reason to join in the festivities. In fact, you have good reason to fear being exposed to this new swine flu vaccine more than the swine flu itself.

    >>>> You are virtually guaranteed that no safety evaluations will be performed prior to the reckless unleashing of this untested vaccine.

    >>>> And, making matters worse, your children may be the first guinea pigs in this public vaccine experiment against a previously unseen hybrid of human, bird and pig viruses.

    >>>>School Children May Face Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations

    I was hoping mandatory vaccinations would not happen, but it now appears as though that's exactly what we might be facing in the near future.

    >>>> In the video above, Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) warns that there is a campaign underway to turn schools into virtual vaccination clinics, and children will be the first to be injected with experimental swine flu vaccines.

    Part of the reasoning for this is that it appears people over the age of 50 have more cross-reacting antibodies against the current swine flu virus, whereas children who have never been exposed to any of the strains before are more vulnerable.

    >>>> The Post Gazette recently reported experts saying, "if the new H1N1 flu comes back in force this fall, it might be better to vaccinate children first," because "in the early stages of the epidemic this spring, the new flu strain has caused "explosive outbreaks" among schoolchildren who have no immunity to it."

    >>>> Again, it's troubling to see health officials using the term "explosive outbreaks" for a flu that in the vast majority of cases has been reported to be very mild.

    Such inflammatory language is simply uncalled for.

    >>>> Making matters worse, they want to target children who have underlying health problems, i.e. the most vulnerable of the group, which means any potential problems with this untested vaccine will have the capacity to do maximum damage.

    Why are We Putting Up With the Same Mistakes Again?

    The current evolution of public health decisions has disturbing similarities to previous swine flu vaccine catastrophes'. The last swine flu threat emerged in 1976, right before I entered medical school and I remember it very clearly. It resulted in the massive swine flu vaccine campaign.

    However, within a few months, claims totaling $1.3 billion had been filed by victims who had suffered paralysis from the experimental vaccine. Several hundred people developed crippling Guillain-Barré Syndrome after their injections. Even healthy 20-year-olds ended up as paraplegics. The vaccine was also blamed for 25 deaths.

    Meanwhile, the deadly swine flu pandemic itself NEVER materialized…

    When a vaccine is developed in a mere 13 weeks, you can be virtually assured that it has NOT had the time to be tested in clinical trials to determine safety and effectiveness.

    The way I see it, we now stand poised to experience a repeat of the last dangerous swine flu vaccine, which destroyed the lives of hundreds of healthy young boys and girls.

    >>>> The real kicker, of course, is the fact that if the new vaccine turns out to be a killer, the pharmaceutical companies responsible have immunity from any lawsuits -- something I've also warned about before on numerous occasions.

    >>>> Absolutely no one stands to be liable if this vaccine turns out to be a health disaster.

    Governments Take Unnecessary "Code Red" Attitude to Flu Threat

    The U.S. Congress handed over unprecedented power to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) after 9-11, and they're chomping at the bit to exercise it now that the World Health Organization (WHO) has upgraded the swine flu threat to Phase 6, Pandemic status.

    >>>> But really, the word 'pandemic' only means that a new virus is spreading across the world. It says nothing about its level of physical danger.

    >>>> So far, the swine flu has claimed a mere 332 lives WORLDWIDE (as of July 1), 116 of the deaths occurred in Mexico.

    >>>> To keep this in perspective, the regular flu (not the swine flu) has allegedly killed 13,000 in the U.S. since January, although there is strong support that these types of figures are grossly exaggerated to increase vaccine sales. However, the fact remains that the regular flu at this point in time is FAR more dangerous than the swine flu, and were you worried about the regular flu before the media started hyping up this exotic new "killer flu"?

    >>>> Despite the indications that the swine flu is more a pandemic nuisance than a pandemic killer, the U.S. Congress responded to the CDC's public health emergency declaration by handing over one billion dollars to a group of drug companies, including Baxter, to fast track experimental swine flu vaccines that may include whole LIVE (caps are mine to add emphasis - normal vaccines do not contain live viruses - A.T.), dead, or genetically engineered human and animal flu viruses.

    >>>> Additionally, nearly all vaccines contain a variety of adjuvants – potentially dangerous chemicals used as preservatives and/or to boost the vaccine's potency by affecting your immune system, such as thimerosal. (my note - thimerosal is mercury - one of the metals that causes a lot of symptoms similar to CFS - A.T.)

    But the 'code red' attitude to this phantom threat doesn't end there.

    Barbara Loe Fisher warns in her article,

    >>>> "In some states, like Massachusetts, public health doctors have persuaded legislators to quickly pass pandemic influenza legislation that will allow state officials to enter the HOMES (caps mine - A.T.) and businesses WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF OCCUPANTS (caps mine - A.T.); to investigate and quarantine individuals without their consent; to require licensed health care providers to give citizens vaccines and to ban the free assembly of citizens in the state."

    >>>> Banning free assembly?

    >>>> Clearly our law-makers are wise enough to foresee public outcry in the face of forced mass-vaccinations, even if they can't see the insanity behind their legislations to begin with.

    What Can You Do?

    >>>> I urge you to review the vast supply of information available on the NVIC site, and join Barbara Loe Fisher in her urging to take action against the potential threat of mandatory swine flu vaccinations.

    It's imperative that you educate yourself about vaccinations, influenza, vaccine risks, and the public health laws in your state, so you know what you're up against come the beginning of the new school year.

    >>>> You need to find out what your rights and options are under new public health laws that may require you and your children to get vaccinated or be quarantined.

    >>>> Many do not realize that such laws even exist. But the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA), which was passed by many states in 2002, includes provisions that would allow state health officials to use the state militia to:

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    >>>> Take control of all roads leading into and out of cities and states
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    >>>> Seize homes, cars, telephones, computers, food, fuel, clothing, firearms and alcoholic beverages for their own use (and not be held liable if these actions result in the destruction of personal property)
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    >>>>(THIS PART IS ESP ALARMING - A.T.) >>>> Arrest, imprison and forcibly examine, vaccinate and medicate citizens without consent (and not be held liable if these actions result in your death or injury)

    Take Action Now

    >>>> I recommend you visit www.NVIC.org and learn as much as you can.

    Says Fisher:

    >>>> "As Department of Homeland Security officials are declaring that any disease outbreak is a matter of homeland security; as Department of Defense officials are defining public demonstrations as "low level terrorism; as CDC officials make plans to re-route airplanes to designated airports with quarantine centers to screen all passengers for signs of swine flu.

    As fast tracked experimental pandemic flu vaccines are being created to be given to American children first, it is time for all of us – whether we are public health officials addressing what we believe is a true public health emergency or whether we are ordinary citizens simply trying to protect our health and the health of our children - to act in rational and responsible ways."

    I agree.

    >>>> This is not the time to fall for hype. These public scare-tactics are designed to make money, not protect your health.

    You can also register to attend the Fourth International Public Conference on Vaccination Oct. 2-4, 2009 in Washington, D.C. and help organize in your state to protect your right to informed consent to vaccination.

    >>>> Also, call and write your state legislators. Let them know where you stand on these issues.

    How to Protect Yourself Without Dangerous Drugs and Vaccinations

    Last but not least, let me reiterate the many ways you can protect your health from ANY kind of flu, without a potentially dangerous vaccine.

    I have not caught a flu in over two decades, and you can avoid it too by following these simple guidelines, which will keep your immune system in optimal working order so that you're far less likely to acquire the infection to begin with.

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    Optimize your vitamin D levels. As I've previously reported, optimizing your vitamin D levels is one of the absolute best strategies for avoiding infections of ALL kinds, and vitamin D deficiency is likely the TRUE culprit behind the seasonality of the flu -- not the flu virus itself.

    I would STRONGLY urge you to have your vitamin D level monitored to confirm your levels are therapeutic at 50-70 ng.ml and done by a reliable vitamin D lab like Lab Corp.

    If you are coming down with flu like symptoms and have not been on vitamin D you can take doses of 50,000 units a day for three days to treat the acute infection. Some researchers like Dr. Cannell, believe the dose could even be as high as 1,000 units per pound of body weight for three days.

    However, most of Dr. Cannell's work was with seasonal and not pandemic flu. If your body has never been exposed to the antigens there is chance that the vitamin D might not work. Your best bet is to maintain healthy levels of vitamin D around 60 ng/ml.

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    Avoid Sugar and Processed Foods. Sugar decreases the function of your immune system almost immediately, and as you likely know, a strong immune system is key to fighting off viruses and other illness. Remember that sugar is present in foods you may not suspect, like ketchup and fruit juice.
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    Get Enough Rest. Just like it becomes harder for you to get your daily tasks done if you're tired, if your body is overly fatigued it will be harder for it to fight the flu. Be sure to check out my article Guide to a Good Night's Sleep for some great tips to help you get quality rest.
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    Have Effective Tools to Address Stress. We all face some stress every day, but if stress becomes overwhelming then your body will be less able to fight off the flu and other illness.

    If you feel that stress is taking a toll on your health, consider using a tool such as meridian tapping techniques, which is remarkably effective in relieving stress associated with all kinds of events, from work to family to trauma. You can check out my free, 25-page manual for some guidelines on how to perform this simple technique.

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    Exercise. When you exercise, you increase your circulation and your blood flow throughout your body. The components of your immune system are also better circulated, which means your immune system has a better chance of finding an illness before it spreads. You can review my exercise guidelines for some great tips on how to get started.
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    Take a good source of animal-based omega-3 fats like krill oil. Increase your intake of healthy and essential fats like the omega-3 found in krill oil, which is crucial for maintaining health. It is also vitally important to avoid damaged omega-6 oils like trans fats as it will seriously damage your immune response.
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    Wash Your Hands. Washing your hands will decrease your likelihood of spreading a virus to your nose, mouth or to other people. Be sure you don't use antibacterial soap for this -- antibacterial soaps are completely unnecessary, and they cause far more harm than good. Instead, identify a simple chemical-free soap that you can switch your family to.
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    Use All-Natural 'Antibiotics'. Garlic works like a broad-spectrum antibiotic against bacteria, virus, and protozoa in your body. And unlike with antibiotics, no resistance can be built up so it is an absolutely safe product to use. However, if you are allergic or don't enjoy garlic it would be best to avoid as it will likely cause more harm than good.

    Other all-natural antibiotics include olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, and high quality colloidal silver.
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    Avoid Hospitals and Vaccines In this particular case, I'd also recommend you stay away from hospitals unless you have an emergency, as hospitals are prime breeding grounds for infections of all kinds, and could be one of the likeliest places you could be exposed to this new bug.



    Related Links:

    Critical Alert: The Swine Flu Pandemic – Fact or Fiction?

    Important Swine Flu Update

    Swine Flu May Be a Human Error From Vaccine Production
    [This Message was Edited on 07/17/2009]
  9. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    Since the last article I posted is so long, I thought I would condense it somewhat to the key points here....I am leaving the other post, though, for those who want all the info (inc references)

    >>>> You are virtually guaranteed that no safety evaluations will be performed prior to the reckless unleashing of this untested vaccine.

    >>>>School Children May Face Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations

    >>>> Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) warns that there is a campaign underway to turn schools into virtual vaccination clinics, and children will be the first to be injected with experimental swine flu vaccines.

    >>>> Making matters worse, they want to target children who have underlying health problems, i.e. the most vulnerable of the group, which means any potential problems with this untested vaccine will have the capacity to do maximum damage.

    >>>> it's troubling to see health officials using the term "explosive outbreaks" for a flu that in the vast majority of cases has been reported to be very mild

    >>>> The real kicker, of course, is the fact that if the new vaccine turns out to be a killer, the pharmaceutical companies responsible have immunity from any lawsuits

    >>>> Absolutely no one stands to be liable if this vaccine turns out to be a health disaster.

    >>>> But really, the word 'pandemic' only means that a new virus is spreading across the world. It says nothing about its level of physical danger.

    >>>> So far, the swine flu has claimed a mere 332 lives WORLDWIDE (as of July 1), 116 of the deaths occurred in Mexico.

    >>>> To keep this in perspective, the regular flu (not the swine flu) has allegedly killed 13,000 in the U.S. since January, although there is strong support that these types of figures are grossly exaggerated to increase vaccine sales. However, the fact remains that the regular flu at this point in time is FAR more dangerous than the swine flu, and were you worried about the regular flu before the media started hyping up this exotic new "killer flu"?

    >>>> Despite the indications that the swine flu is more a pandemic nuisance than a pandemic killer, the U.S. Congress responded to the CDC's public health emergency declaration by handing over one billion dollars to a group of drug companies, including Baxter, to fast track experimental swine flu vaccines that may include whole LIVE (caps are mine to add emphasis - normal vaccines do not contain live viruses - A.T.), dead, or genetically engineered human and animal flu viruses.

    >>>> Additionally, nearly all vaccines contain a variety of adjuvants – potentially dangerous chemicals used as preservatives and/or to boost the vaccine's potency by affecting your immune system, such as thimerosal. (my note - thimerosal is mercury - one of the metals that causes a lot of symptoms similar to CFS - A.T.)

    >>>> "In some states, like Massachusetts, public health doctors have persuaded legislators to quickly pass pandemic influenza legislation that WILL ALLOW STATE OFFICIALS TO ENTER THE HOMES AND BUSINESSES WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF OCCUPANTS (caps mine - A.T.); to investigate and quarantine individuals without their consent; to require licensed health care providers to give citizens vaccines and to ban the free assembly of citizens in the state."

    >>>> Banning free assembly?

    >>>> Clearly our law-makers are wise enough to foresee public outcry in the face of forced mass-vaccinations, even if they can't see the insanity behind their legislations to begin with.

    >>>> I urge you to review the vast supply of information available on the NVIC site, and join Barbara Loe Fisher in her urging to take action against the potential threat of mandatory swine flu vaccinations.

    >>>> You need to find out what your rights and options are under new public health laws that may require you and your children to get vaccinated or be quarantined.

    >>>> Many do not realize that such laws even exist. But the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA), which was passed by many states in 2002, includes provisions that would allow state health officials to use the state militia to:

    >>>> Take control of all roads leading into and out of cities and states

    >>>> Seize homes, cars, telephones, computers, food, fuel, clothing, firearms and alcoholic beverages for their own use (and not be held liable if these actions result in the destruction of personal property)

    >>>> ARREST, IMPRISON, AND FORCIBLY EXAMINE, VACCINATE, AND MEDICATE CITIZENS WITHOUT CONSENT (AND NOT BE HELD LIABLE IF THESE ACTIONS RESULT IN YOUR DEATH OR INJURY)(caps mine - A.T.)

    >>>> visit www.NVIC.org and learn as much as you can.

    >>>>Says Fisher: "As Department of Homeland Security officials are declaring that any disease outbreak is a matter of homeland security; as Department of Defense officials are defining public demonstrations as "low level terrorism; as CDC officials make plans to re-route airplanes to designated airports with quarantine centers to screen all passengers for signs of swine flu.

    >>>> This is not the time to fall for hype. These public scare-tactics are designed to make money, not protect your health.

    >>>> call and write your state legislators. Let them know where you stand on these issues.
  10. frickly

    frickly New Member

    I encourage everyone to do your own research and make an informed decision regarding this issue. I am staying informed and will never let others make health care decisions for my family.

    Take care,
  11. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    first of all dr mercola is hardly the only source of this info ( I just posted this stuff from him, bc it is fairly comprehensive and recent, and bc I do so much research I don't always keep it all and have it all readily available to quote from)

    however, that said, he is also not a quack - he is a real doctor, the things that he writes about are always backed up by valid research, and he has also been unafraid to admit it if new evidence contradicts what he has written in the past (not that this has happened often, but research does change sometimes and he writes about this when it happens) .....plus, just bc he has consistently been against vaccines does not mean that he is making up the potential for forced vaccines

    and yes, it is the "potential" in this particular case, not the reality yet; however, there WAS a case a couple of yrs ago in one of the states in the east (don't remember which one) where school children were taken at gunpoint and forced to be vaccinated and it was all over the news - so it has already happened at least once

    and either NY or NJ is trying to pass a bill that would not allow children to be homeschooled unless they were vaccinated (though this is only one state, if it passes, it will set precedent for other states)....this is obviously not just about keeping children in schools from passing illnesses around
    [This Message was Edited on 07/17/2009]
  12. hi all,
    ive just read on sky news,on my telly, that the swine flu vaccine has a additive in it, that could cause side affects in some people.

    i do have sensitivities to additives in foodstuff,but my gut feelings are telling me to still go ahead and have the swine flu vaccine.

    i work in a school,and in may this year, i caught a very bad chest infection from one of the science teachers (he sneezed all over me).but he,s a friend, so i didnt swear at him..i just told him off in a nice way..about not using a tissue to catch those sneezes.

    anyway i thought my time had come when i caught the chest infection in may,and my whole body shut down,including whatever controls my lungs being able to actually breath.it was truly horrible and scary.i know my CFS kicked in badly too.

    so i know ive got to take a chance and have the vaccine.if i dont have it,that swine flu might finish me off...its a risk i have to take.

    also i dont want to spread the flu to my family,work mates and school kids.

    i was told by a science teacher at school that i need to strengthen my immune system,by making sure i have vitamin C, and then my body can fight any flu,much better.

    i had to stop my cranberry juice (which is packed with vitamin C), and fruit, due to my husband being off work ill for 6 months due to a hernia.so i guess because i didnt have the money for my juice and such,my bodies defences were very low.

    im back on my juice now and vitamins, plus fruit,so hopefully things wont be as bad as they were in may.

    anyone with asthma..be sure to take your inhalers properly as we need all the help we can get right now.

    take care all,love fran.
    [This Message was Edited on 07/18/2009]