weight gain going on- yikes

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by sascha, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. sascha

    sascha Member

    cold weather puts me in self-indulgence mode w/foods; expansion occurring. i don't like it, but i cave in with this and that excuse, and most any rationalization...

    it's holiday season, gets dark so early, i'm cold- any excuse will do and off i go on a little/big binge.

    I KNOW exactly what i need to do. and the sad thing is i also KNOW from lots of experience that i feel better when i eat clean, and that i can enjoy food just as much when i eat well, AND i lose the cravings for stuff that isn't good for me.

    actually Suzanne Somers laid guidelines out long ago- not combing carbs w/fats and proteins; having proteins and fats together; keeping fruits separate; not having sugar.

    i can do very well with this approach for long period of time. what i notice big-time is when i cave and have carbs w/fats my appetite is insatiable- there is no satisfying hunger- but when i eat clean and well, i stay satisfied, don't obsess about food, do well with IBS tendencies-

    so i know the drill- hope i don't cave too dreadfully over holidays. i think maybe there's anxiety through this time period, and my usual reaction WAS to comfort myself with foods of the chocolate-y and carbo persuasion-

    anyone else experiencing this ???? Sascha
  2. spacee

    spacee Member

    If I lived up north..yes, I would have the same struggle.

    I had never read Suzanne's diet before and thanks for posting it. I noticed that I think I am eating like she recommends more than I would have thought. Basically eating carbs alone.

    I can't have chocolate in the house. If I eat a small amount I crave it. It took me a long time to wean off chocolate and ice cream. I switched to bubble gum! Then to sugarless bubble gum.

    Just my experience...it is tough!

  3. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    Did you mean to write 1,800 calories? That is a lot of calories, but it would make sense.....18,000 would be pretty much impossible for anyone to consume at one time, no matter what they were eating

    oh and, congrats to your dtr.....that is great
    [This Message was Edited on 11/22/2009]
  4. nah.stacey

    nah.stacey Member

    When I started Lyrica I put on 20 lbs in one month alone. Then I discontinued it in July and started it up again this month, another instant five.

    Anyway, I'm in the Rocky Mtns. and we get the dark early too and the abysmal cold. We had white out conditions this afternoon, made me want to go pull the covers over my head till
    spring. Hybernation just looks better and better all the time.

  5. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    I'm not really experiencing what you are - I lost 32 pounds and it took 5 years to do it because I can't exercise, it was so slow going, that I really don't dare let myself binge. It was just too hard and took too long to do, but I'm really glad I did it. I've just changed the way I eat, similar to what you and everyone else are recommending.

    But I remember reading an article a couple of years ago, it was very good, about emotional eating and how emotions have to be dealt with if that is part of the problem. I don't have the article any more (wish I did) but came across this:
    which is pretty good. It explains briefly about emotional eating, and then of course he wants to sell a book, but you don't have to buy anything just to read the article.

    One thing that he said that I really liked was how if you let yourself feel something (instead of avoiding it through food or whatever), the feeling will end up disappearing. I used to have internal battles over what I thought I should feel versus what I actually did, and it was exhausting. I learned through EMDR (you can look that up if interested) that I had to accept all of me, and that was when I learned that when I stopped fighting emotions, they lost their power over me, regardless of what it was. I read somewhere that whatever you resist, persists, and found it to be very true.

    You mention anxiety and comforting yourself with food, and that's why I posted the above. There's lots of info about emotional eating on the web -

    Take care -

  6. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    I know that it is fairly easy for someone to take in 1,800 calories in a single meal, and I do believe that you heard that a Thanksgiving meal could add up to 18,000, but I think that where ever your info came from it was not accurate

    .....there is just no way that it would be physically possible for anyone's stomach to hold that much food, and even if you have large double servings of all the typical Thanksgiving foods, and dessert, and a few drinks, it still would come far short of that total

    even Michael Phelps (the very tall Olympic swimmer, who trains intensively 5- 6 hrs a day and eats more than pretty much anyone, only consumes 2/3 of that in an entire day.....and the tour de France bicyclists eat far less than he does, and they train and eat an awful lot)

    see below if you are interested in what Phelps eats:

    Michael Phelps celebrates another gold medal and another 12,000-calorie day. (AP Photo)

    Swimmer Michael Phelps’s next career may be in competitive eating. Besides grabbing five gold medals at the Beijing Olympics so far, making him the winningest Olympic athlete ever, he’s got to be setting new marks on the chow line.

    A New York Post account of Phelps’s… wait for it… 12,000-calorie-a-day diet, gave us a stomachache. Could one human being really consume that much and still be in Phelps’s shape? And could this possibly be healthy for Phelps, even considering his five-hours-a-day, six-days-a-week exercise regimen?

    Here’s Phelps’s typical menu. (No, he doesn’t choose among these options. He eats them all, according to the Post.)

    Breakfast: Three fried-egg sandwiches loaded with cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, fried onions and mayonnaise. Two cups of coffee. One five-egg omelet. One bowl of grits. Three slices of French toast topped with powdered sugar. Three chocolate-chip pancakes.

    Lunch: One pound of enriched pasta. Two large ham and cheese sandwiches with mayo on white bread. Energy drinks packing 1,000 calories.

    Dinner: One pound of pasta. An entire pizza. More energy drinks.

    Does a diet like this make sense even for a calorie-incinerating human swimming machine? We checked in with Mark Klion, a sports medicine doc and orthopedic surgeon at Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York. He reminded us that the eating game all comes down to basic math.

    If you eat fewer calories than you burn exercising, you lose weight. But an athlete like Phelps, who exercises up a storm, has to worry about eating enough to replenish the scads of calories he’s burned. If he doesn’t, Klion explains, his “body won’t recover, the muscles will not recover, there will not be adequate energy stored for him to compete in his next event.”

    But what about the choice of foods? All those eggs and ham and cheese can’t possibly be good for him, can they? Says Klion, “I think for him, because of his caloric demands, he can probably eat whatever he wants to.” And besides, Klion says, if you’ve got to eat that much, it better be enjoyable, or you won’t be able to keep up. Phelps might not be so eager to shovel down a pound of tofu in a sitting, Klion points out.

    Still, Klion cautions that he knows plenty of athletes who’ve been training for marathons and have gained weight because they thought they could eat whatever they wanted. So it really does take some planning. Some resources on the Web might help, such as this calorie-use chart from the American Heart Association and a calorie calculator from Runner’s World magazine. This calculator from the Calorie Control Council includes a bunch of different activities, from dusting to playing ice hockey.

    But these kinds of calculators don’t really apply to a someone like Phelps, who exercises way more vigorously than the typical person, says Kathleen Laquale, an athletic trainer and nutritionist who teaches at Bridgewater State College in Massachusetts. Even by athletic standards, Phelps is in his own league. Laquale says cyclists in the Tour de France commonly consume a paltry 8,000 to 10,000 calories a day.
  7. sascha

    sascha Member

    good to hear

    i expect to return to sanity pretty soon-

    loved the comment "whatever you resist persists" - that applied so perfectly to another area of my life.

    i am working with EFT in other areas of my life and it is fan-tas-tic. wow- such help i get from it. i haven't applied it to food situation and issues, but that's a good idea.

    i have a lot of time invested when i have been eating very well and not gaining weight, and i'm banking on that good experience to help me to get back into it- i sure feel good about myself when i do- and i feel better generally. thanks again- Sascha