What do you all take for bloating ?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by deepak, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. deepak

    deepak Member

    Hello all,

    Was wondering what helps and what people here take to relieve bloating. I get so bloated as soon as I eat something - creates much discomfort - otherwise my digestion is ok and so are bowel movements but this bloating is making me crazy

  2. deepak

    deepak Member

    :) Always nice to see you too.

    Thanks for all your suggestions. It happens as soon as I eat anything. I have just started since 2 days the super digestive enzymes from life extensions. It seems to help a bit but too soon to say.

    I am planning to try lemon squeezed water after meals and see if it helps.

    A doctor here had earlier given me charcoal tablets but have not really taken them...do they help ?

    Love to you both :)

  3. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    One more thing you might need is hydrochloric acid. Many people with CFS are deficient in HCL. My digsetion used to be really screwed up until I started taking HCL about 1/2 hour before each meal. my doctor told me to take enough capsules until I started to feel "acidy" and then to stop. It made a huge difference for me. The digestive enzymes alone were not enough.

    Here is a simple at home test Richvank posted quite awhile ago to see if you have enough stomach acid: For those who haven't heard of the baking soda--burp test, it goes like this: On an empty stomach, drink a glass of water (about 8 oz.) into which you have mixed one-quarter teaspoon of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). See how long it takes you to burp. If you haven't burped in two minutes, your stomach acid production is low.

    Charcoal tablets will help absorb toxins, but if your problem is lack of digestive enzymes or HCL, they won't help.

    Lemon juice also is very good for digestion. Also, apple cider vinegar.

  4. richvank

    richvank New Member

    Hi, Deepak.

    I wonder if you could have an intestinal yeast infection. Yeasts feed on sugars and starches, especially, and they generate carbon dioxide gas, which is odorless and can cause bloating. If the bloating is worse when you eat foods containing sugars, it would suggest that the problem might be yeasts.

    There are various conventional and alternative treatments for yeast infection. I like the product called Candex. It contains enzymes that digest the cell walls of the yeasts, and usually there is not a die-off reaction, as there is with some other yeast treatments.

    Best regards,

  5. spacee

    spacee Member

    I have been taking the digestive enzymes and see no improvement.

    Have jotted down all the suggestions and hope to get good results from
    at least one of them!

    My GI dod told me to take the digestive enzymes for IBS.

    Thanks again,

  6. deepak

    deepak Member

    Thank you all so so much for so much good advise. I feel overwhelmed with the love and genuine support on this board :).

    Rich, I will surely look into your candex suggestion. I recently did a course of an anti parasite called Paragone and I did notice what seemed like candida ( from online pictures ) in my stool - "cottony" kind of white stuff.

    Mary - thanks for the acid test thingy which Rich has taught. I am going to do it today and see what my results are.

    Freida - thanks for the detailed reply and suggestions.

    Love to all,
  7. zenouchy

    zenouchy Member

    For me, medicines can cause me more issues, so figuring out what may be causing the bloating and prevent it is better. Definitely eat smaller meals and if possible try to stop eating when you are about 80% full. Our bodies don't register being full until about 20 minutes after we eat.

    If you can, keep a food diary and see if you can determine what foods cause you to feel the most bloated so that you can limit or eliminate those foods. Also, my GI doctor tells me that exercise, even gentle types like a light walk, helps our digestion system work better overall if you are able to do so. Hope this helps you!

    All the best,

  8. deepak

    deepak Member

    So I did the baking soda test and it took me 2 minutes and 30 seconds to burp. Does that mean I am low in stomach acid ? Also, could candida result in low acid ?

  9. richvank

    richvank New Member

    Hi, Deepak.

    I would say that you are somewhat low in stomach acid, but not as low as many people. I've heard from some that they kept observing for 10 minutes and never burped in that time.

    I think the cause and effect is in the other direction: low stomach acid allows yeast that comes in with the food to survive the stomach and move into the duodenum. In order to avoid a return of the yeast infection, it is necessary to get the stomach acid level up with meals. Then the existing yeast can be dealt with using Candex.

    In many cases, when yeast is present, there is also intestinal bacteria dysbiosis. A comprehensive stool analysis is necessary to test for this.

    Best regards,

  10. deepak

    deepak Member

    Thanks for the reply :).

    Since I dont seem TOO low in acid from the burp test I was thinking of having lemon water 2-3 times a day and also taking candex along with it . Do you think that is a good idea ? Also, would probiotics be the answer to cure dysbiosis ?

    On another note, I just started doing Freds B12 protocol and was taking the Methyl b12 5000 mg and Methyfolate 800 mg and sometimes some potassium. Was not noticing much difference in how I felt with those but I added L-carnitine fumarate 3 days back and it definitely makes me feel stronger and more energetic. In your opinion are these all safe to take on a long term basis ?

    With love,
    [This Message was Edited on 04/01/2012]
  11. luigi21

    luigi21 Member

    A pin, POP! Only joking, i take buscopan and use a hot water bottle, massaging in a clockwise direction may help. Some people take peppermint capsules, but they can irritate the stomach in some people.
    If you suffer any kind of acid reflux or if you over urinate then anything acidic will not be helpful. Always seek doctors advice if new symptoms as bloating at the worse, can be a sign of obstruction. are you suffering constipation? bloating can also be caused by this and you may need a gentle laxative, some medications cause the bowel to slow down, the longer waste is left in the bowel the higher the build up of gas.

    all the best
  12. richvank

    richvank New Member

    Hi, Deepak.

    Lemon water and Candex are probably worth a try.

    Probiotics may help with dysbiosis, but in many cases it is necessary to determine which bacteria are overgrown, using a comprehensive stool test, and to treat specifically to knock their populations down before probiotics will be able to restore normal gut flora.

    I favor testing first to see if there is a partial methylation cycle block before doing a methylation protocol. Otherwise, if the protocol does not help, one doesn't know whether the reason is that there is no partial methylation block, or whether there is something else blocking the treatment, such as deficiency of one or more of the essential nutrients, or high levels of toxic metals that are blocking enzymes.

    Freddd and I have suggested somewhat different methylation protocols. I favor use of hydroxo B12 rather then methyl B12 at first, to see if it will work.
    If it doesn't work after 2 or three months, then I suggest switching to methyl B12. The problem with using high dosages of methyl B12 and methylfolate together is that it takes control of the rate of the methylation cycle and the folate cycle away from the cells, and overdrives them. The results of this are that glutathione cannot come up, and I suspect also the rate of cell division becomes rapid, causing a large demand for potassium and risking hypokalemia, which can have serious effects on the heartbeat and other functions controlled by the nervous system.

    The question is what are "large" dosages in this context? I prefer 400 t0 800 micrograms per day of active folates, and about 2,000 milligrams of hydroxo B12. The clnical study carried out by Dr. Nathan and myself showed that these dosages gave significant improvement to about two-thirds of the patients in the study. I don't have experience with the larger dosage of B12, and particularly methyl B12, as suggested by Freddd. I think it's important to note that Freddd bases his suggestions largely on his personal experience, but from what he has reported, he has some rather unusual genetic inheritance, which may not be shared by most people who have ME/CFS. Freddd and I have discussed this at great length on the Phoenix Rising forums.

    Carnitine fumarate can be helpful to the mitochondria. Carnitine helps the mitochondria to import fatty acids to use as fuel, and fumarate is one of the metabolites in the Krebs cycle.

    Best regards,


  13. deepak

    deepak Member

    Thank you so much for your mindful response. I am grateful :).

    A couple of questions -

    1) Are there any standard tests to test for methylation blocks ? I am in India so I dont think I will have access to very specialised tests here.

    2) I am a bit uncomfortable too with the high doses on Freddds protocol - if I test positive for the block, can I switch to yours ?

    My symptoms followed 6 months of a high esonophilia count, for which I had taken a 3 month course of Hetrazan (Diethylcarbamazine) , which is an anti-helmentic. During the second month of taking this medicine symptoms started and then new ones kept coming- which now all seem to be like fibromyalgia- except that I dont seem to have specfic tender points but generalised muscle tenderness and pain.

    I was seeing a video presentation by you in which you mentioned Dr shoemaker. I did his VCS vision test and got a score of 59 on that which said I was positive.

    Would be very grateful for any guidance you can give.

    With love,

    PITATOO Member

    Just something to add. Watch what you drink with and or soon after a meal. I know everyone things you must have a glass of milk or water with dinner or soda but it dilutes your digestive enzymes and does not allow for proper digestion. I sip on water all day long but nothing at mealtime. Also write down everything you are eating to see if a certain food is causing bloating(symptom of IBS) I have to stay away from milk and milk products and I thought soy would be okay(NOT). I drink rice milk now, but not with meals. Just a thought, hope the enzymes work out for you.

  15. AuntTammie

    AuntTammie New Member

    Fennel seed, caraway seed, and thyme are all supposed to help with bloating, too

    and if you are eating something that you know will cause problems, Gas X Prevention or Bean rt before you eat can really help...they are not the same stuff that is in the reugalr Gas X
  16. GeminiMoon

    GeminiMoon Member

    I swear by a homeopathic remedy called Nux Vomica. Works every time. It's cheap and there are no side effects.
  17. Saoirse3

    Saoirse3 Member

    I have gall bladder issues, so sometimes taking anything acid-y makes it worse. And believe me, it can get a LOT worse! LOL! What works for me is acidopholus. It usually works in about 5 or ten minutes. Sometimes my stomach gets so hard it feels like I ate cement or, my "drain is clogged". This seems to do the trick, at least for me! Hope you are doing well!

    Soft hugs,

  18. deepak

    deepak Member

    I have been experimenting with reducing starches as Rich advised and I have seen a big difference in the bloating.

    In fact I was only eating brown rice for all meals ,seeing if I have a gluten sensitivity and I realised that was making my bloating much worse.

    I have stopped the brown rice for now and trying to do low carbs - upto now there is quite a marked difference.

    I am also doing lemon-ginger shots after meals :). Taught to me by a naturopath here - make some ginger juice - add one lemon juice to it - it becomes a nice pink color - then have it like you would have a tequila shot ! :))

  19. deepak

    deepak Member

    I did have an endoscopy last year and it was all clear except mild gastritis.


  20. slowdreamer

    slowdreamer New Member

    Hi Deepak .Your conclusions re brown rice reminded me of something..I find brown rice very inflaming to my digestive tract whereas white rice in just moderate amounts is soothing..

    Also I finf Slippery Elm Powder very soothing and wel ltolerated

    It is funny how everyone assumes brown rice is best.

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