Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Misdiagnosed, Sep 3, 2003.
I will ask my sharp Chiro next time I see her.<BR>
Hi, Gill I Realise that it is a long time since you posted here, but I too am struggling with a PSOAS issue and would be grateful for any info you can give me re the person you saw in Adelaide or a massage therapist in Sydney who is competent in this area, Thank you
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Hi Aidan, did you ever manage to sort out your issues? If you did find a therapist in Sydney I'd love to hear about him/her? Thank you!
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but a psoas is not going to cause all the many symptoms of FM - please
Hiya Gill, I hope you still receive notices, I know it's been a long time....
I have a very long story too and it sounds a lot like yours except mine started when I woke up in recovery after an operation in 2011 and found my right leg paralysed.
I was wondering if you might still have the contact details of who you say in Adelaide.
Thanks so much.
Wow, this is a very interesting thread and I think this was also a big part of what was happening to me , though I do wonder was the psoas getting so tight a cause or effect of something else.
So I went to an intuitional healer last year who said my symptoms are those of a very tight psoas and proceeded to release it and stretch it and I think he went overboard - in trying to release it he put so much pressure that the blood around there pooled up and I had a red mark on my lower abdomen for a week - BUT I felt SO much better later ( though I could not walk straight for 4-5 days after he did this ). So much of the body discomfort went away.
But then after a couple of months the tightness came back , though not as much, so I have also been going around trying to get it released periodically and stretching it.
The psoas is a huge and very powerful muscle and anything going wrong with it , which can happen to most people who sit too long , can throw the whole body out of whack.
Gill, Gill, Gill...... where are you?
I just wanted to say a HUGE thank you for posting this thread..... without your information I would never have found AJ (Aileen Jefferis). I'm currently in my Hotel room in Adelaide & have just got off the phone with AJ.
This is my second week long stint seeing her for treatment and I must say she is one very clever lady.
Her treatment has worked miracles for me and it's all because of you.
I do hope you return here one day so I can hear how you are going.... email me if you wish, I'd be more than happy to hear from you.
cheshchambers at Gmail. com
Hi, Gill or anybody on this forum. I realise that most of the posts are over 10 years old but I have a psoas that is going into spasm regularly. I live in the UK so Adelaide is out for me. Does anyone have an email address for Aileen Jeffris as she might be able to advise someone here how to treat me ?
Hiya Topmarks, I'm a patient of 'AJ's', I'll ask her for her contact details.
Topmarks, I also have a number of copies of her book. Would you like me to send you one?
Thanks for your prompt reply. I just found her email on her charity website, the web is a wonderful thing, so have emailed her tonight . I am based in the UK, not Australia making it a bit more difficult but am hoping she might be able to enlighten a therapist here to help me with my psoas spasm. Hope your treatment is going well. Can I come back to you if I don't hear back from her ?
Sure, no problem Topmarks. I'll be speaking with her over the weekend, I'll mention you're sending an email.
If you like, you can contact me via my gmail account..... cheshchambers. (sorry, you can't post URL's on this forum).
That way I'll be able to let her know which email to look out for. Also, if you like, you can give me your address and I'll send you a copy of her book for both you and your therapist to take a look at.
Hi, Chesh, have tried to email you so please let me know if you receive it. Mark
Hi, I know I am dragging up and old post, but it was just a question for Mark, top marks, did you ever manage to find a contact for a psoas specialist in the UK? If so please can you advise who you found. Many thanks, Amelia.
This post change my life ... almost overnight! I had been suffering from CFS for ten years. Like many, I had tried EVERYTHING in the book. I had been told my symptoms were related to early childhood trauma, and had been working with several practitioners on trauma release for about two years, but the symptoms were not improving.
I had been suffering a particularly bad bout of CFS for the past few weeks. I had excruciating insomnia, and slept only a couple hours in early morning, and when I woke, it felt like my body had been through war. During the day, I could not focus on the simplest of tasks.
A few nights ago, I came across this post about the psoas muscle. I did more research, and learned that the psoas muscle is the primary muscular mechanism in the fight/ flight response (receiving orders from the amygdala), as the psoas muscle is what moves the legs to run. I noticed how much tension I carry in the psoas muscle, and that part of my pattern of CFS was tension in the gut, and difficultly breathing, all related to psoas tension.
I looked up some simple yoga stretches for the psoas, and did them before bed. The first night, I slept a full night, and woke reasonably rested. I think it may have been easy for me to begin to correct the psoas tension, because in my past life (before CFS) I was a highly trained athlete.
I believe the psoas is the link in the chain between psychological states (for me, the result of childhood trauma) and the somatic/ bodily symptoms of CFS. I have learned so much about this chain (from amygdala to vagus nerve to psoas muscle), and I would be eager to share information with anyone who thinks it might support them. If you would like to dialogue more about this with me, please email me.
My prayers to all who suffer from these chronic illnesses.
Wow Michael, quite a remarkable post and testimonial. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences.
I'm most interested in the yoga stretches you tried that were specific to the psoas. Would they be available on YouTube by any chance? I would also be interested in any links you could provide to the psoas muscle being closely connected to the fight or flight response--a rather fascinating concept.
In terms of the psoas being connected with fight or flight, check out information about Trauma Release Exercises (TRE)- many of which are aimed at getting the psaos to shake or tremor to release tension or stored trauma. The psoas is the muscle that lifts the legs when running or walking, so it makes sense that in chronic stress (which is simply an unresolved fight/flight response), the psaos would be chronically activated and tight.
In terms of yoga stretches, any of the asanas that are back bending (like camel, lying/standing bow, bridge, etc) are good for lengthening the psoas. The impulse to curl up in a ball, like fetal position, is the natural response to overwhelm, and anything that counter-acts that, where hips are opened up and arced away from the thighs, helps stretch the psoas.
Even the lunge stretches the psoas on the side with the leg extended behind the body.
If you google psoas and yoga you will find many other poses that are good for strengthening and lengthening the psoas.
Generally, in the emerging field of somatic therapy for trauma, there is much discussion about the role that psoas plays in the somatic manifestations of trauma. I wish I could recommend something for you, but I am still educating myself, and will pass along the reliable, informative sources as I come across them.
Hope this is helpful,
I'm going to check this out too. Here's a video on how to release this muscle- you'll have to judge for yourself if it's good or not.
I liked this video--gives a VERY simple exercise which I've done and like a lot. It might more appropriately be described as a posture than an exercise. She begins the exercise description at about the 3-min. mark.
Relax and Release the Psoas Muscle Easily and Effortlessly
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